CBS Cancels Guiding Light

[Fedya]

Aaron Sica wrote:

Remember "The Morning Program"? I'd rather forget it.

Was that the one that was breakfast for your head?  CBS has had so many incarnations of their morning show that I have no idea which is which.

[Fedya]

Curt Alliaume wrote:

I don't see the sense in having two or three court shows battling each other to death in that slot.

Fixed it for you.

(I don't watch The View, but I can at least understand why some people might want to watch it.  Ditto the soap operas.  But the appeal of the court shows completely mystifies me.)

[Jimmy Owen]

[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'211896\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 04:24 PM\']


(I don't watch The View, but I can at least understand why some people might want to watch it.  Ditto the soap operas.  But the appeal of the court shows completely mystifies me.)
[/quote]

They help the unemployed people who are available to watch daytime TV prepare for their upcoming trial dates.

[PYLdude]

[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'211896\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 04:24 PM\']


(I don't watch The View, but I can at least understand why some people might want to watch it.  Ditto the soap operas.  But the appeal of the court shows completely mystifies me.)
[/quote]

Because without them the white trash factor on TV would be severely limited, and as we all know, "white trash = ratings!"

[RyanCDN]

[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'211850\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 11:11 AM\']
[quote name=\'Tony Peters\' post=\'211847\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 10:52 AM\']
As someone who felt burned by the '02-'04 abomination[/quote]

"Abomination" is such a strong word.

Am I the only who didn't like Donny-Mid simply because of its judging policy ("why you swim in a lake" not acceptable for "why you jump in a lake", as I'm pretty sure it would have been acceptable on the Clark/Cullen/Davidson versions)?
[/quote]


I acutally agree with you here.  I can understand the specific on the top category, but the judging was pretty strict overall.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'RyanCDN\' post=\'211907\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 02:25 PM\']
I acutally agree with you here.  I can understand the specific on the top category, but the judging was pretty strict overall.[/quote]
The problem there was not the judging per se (though I do have huge issues with that too), the problem there was the writing. The continued insistence to use compound subjects (as in, two separate concepts had to be combined to create a correct answer, usually a verb-noun combination) for reasons I cannot fathom other than the nebulous The Producers Really Didn't Get It was a big contribution to why the Winner's Circle was so broken on that version.

[Don Howard]

[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'211895\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 04:20 PM\']
Aaron Sica wrote:

Remember "The Morning Program"? I'd rather forget it.

Was that the one that was breakfast for your head?  CBS has had so many incarnations of their morning show that I have no idea which is which.
[/quote]
No. That was what CBS This Morning used for a while during the mid-1990s. This was during the Harry Smith/Paula Zahn tenure.

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'211911\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 05:43 PM\']
No. That was what CBS This Morning used for a while during the mid-1990s. This was during the Harry Smith/Paula Zahn tenure.
[/quote]
Was that the version that added the studio audience?

[Don Howard]

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'211915\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 05:48 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'211911\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 05:43 PM\']
No. That was what CBS This Morning used for a while during the mid-1990s. This was during the Harry Smith/Paula Zahn tenure.
[/quote]
Was that the version that added the studio audience?
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Yes. I found that interesting because CBS was sure as shootin' that the studio audience was part of the problem for The Morning Program and insisted they wouldn't go that route again. When CBS This Morning was dumped for This Morning (which began the era of more broadcasting time for the affiliated stations within the two hours) out went the audience {and Harry and Paula; but not Mark McEwen who seemed to have more lives than a cat at the CBS morning attempts}.

[chad1m]

But, as we saw with Password, the big issue with a new Pyramid, I think, is finding enough competent celebrities. I don't think this is as difficult in terms of gameplay, since you can do or say whatever you want for most of the game, but it's certainly a pending issue.

[Don Howard]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'211917\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 06:07 PM\']
But, as we saw with Password, the big issue with a new Pyramid, I think, is finding enough competent celebrities.
[/quote]
Would it be acceptable to you if celebrities were not used?
Just pair up a couple of strangers.
There'd be a budget savings.

[chad1m]

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'211922\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 06:57 PM\']Just pair up a couple of strangers.[/quote]That's certainly an interesting hypothetical we've often thrown around. I wouldn't have any qualms, mainly if the top prize is given to each person, rather than making it The $12,500 Pyramid.

[CarShark]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'211861\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 12:34 PM\']
Okay, but I'm dealing with a) the realities of the need for a self-contained non-straddling hour[/quote]The article did say it would likely be an hour-long show, but I don't see where it has to be self-contained. That's a point I wouldn't concede so quickly. Straddling gives the format so much more freedom.

and b) the desire to not have to explain in the middle of the show that because Person A won $500 and Person B won $750 (and not necessarily on this episode, even) that Person B is the champion and will be facing a new challenger even though Person A won the most recent game. It worked on the '80s show because it *didn't* straddle and Dick was able to cover it all in the recap at the end.

Again, I don't see the problem. If the host explains that before the Winners' Circle, like Dick did before the second WC most days, there will be no place to be confused. They can still have the downstage recap, say "Bye" to the loser and immediately say "Hi" to the newbie.

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'211881\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 02:45 PM\']
[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'211869\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 10:12 AM\']
Yeah, but only three end games in an hour? That would suck.[/quote]
If you want four, in this TV climate of more ad time than the '80s, you're getting a show with the breakneck pace and no soul whatsoever of Donnymid.[/quote]The average daytime Price is Right runs about 37 1/2 to 39 minutes. For Pyramid, that's 12 1/2 to 13 per segment for 3 WCs. For four, that'll be 9 1/3 to 9 3/4. Looking at online episodes of Bold and Beautiful, they run about 20 minutes and change. 2 in a half-hour might be doable, but I don't think CBS wants to commission two shows, have one fail and be stuck filling something in after Christmas break.

Or stick with 6 in 20 seconds.

No, this sucked and is precisely what we are trying to avoid.

I could get behind 6-in-20 before I'll ever get behind one-and-done. First new daytime game show in 15 years or not, one-and-done would be The Dealbreaker for me. Especially with the caliber of celebrities they're likely to get, at least for the first couple years.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'211917\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 03:07 PM\']
I don't think this is as difficult in terms of gameplay, since you can do or say whatever you want for most of the game, but it's certainly a pending issue.[/quote]
It's only a pending issue if they let it be. With some notable exceptions, celebrities have not gotten stupider since the 1980s. Finding a decent stable of celebrities who can play the game, just like they did before, is doable, pending the hiring of competent wranglers.

(Coolio, however, may not be available.)

[Kevin Prather]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'211926\' date=\'Apr 2 2009, 04:11 PM\']
(Coolio, however, may not be available.)
[/quote]
'Tis quite possible.