Author Topic: Pyramid Clues (Read 15659 times)

BrandonFG · « **Reply #30 on:** August 04, 2009, 09:15:00 PM »

[quote name=\'Kevin Prather\' post=\'222017\' date=\'Aug 4 2009, 09:10 PM\']In response to the first question, I've seen "Table settings" get buzzed for "Things you place" in a tournament, so the noun/verb argument doesn't hold.[/quote]
I'm guessing that's a case of synonyms ("setting"="place/placing")...

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #31 on:** August 05, 2009, 02:16:45 AM »

Tonight's "THINGS IN AN ELEVATOR"

"The missing 13" -- Legal?

Loogaroo · « **Reply #32 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:12:19 AM »

That's a tricky one. I'd probably buzz it myself, simply on the basis that if it's missing, then it isn't in that elevator, making it an invalid clue.

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #33 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:22:30 AM »

It is tricky, because like you I agree it's not in the elevator -- but I also said it wasn't

chad1m · « **Reply #34 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:24:38 AM »

[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'222039\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 05:22 AM\']but I also said it wasn't

[/quote]Which means you gave something that isn't in that category so, judging on past rulings and rules descriptions, I'd buzz ya.

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #35 on:** August 05, 2009, 05:28:41 AM »

But the "missing 13" is in the elevator, because it isn't!

Loogaroo · « **Reply #36 on:** August 05, 2009, 07:12:04 AM »

No, it isn't in the elevator. That's why it's missing. And in any event, it's not a very good clue.

WilliamPorygon · « **Reply #37 on:** August 05, 2009, 07:51:03 AM »

Numbered buttons. Other passengers. Bland music. An operator.

There's plenty of better clues, anyway.

TimK2003 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 05, 2009, 09:27:03 AM »

[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'222043\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 07:12 AM\']No, it isn't in the elevator. That's why it's missing. And in any event, it's not a very good clue.[/quote]

Plus, the majority of elevators are located in smaller buildings, where they're not even close to having 13+ floors.

Would "The DOOR OPEN Button", "The DOOR CLOSE Button", "The THIRD FLOOR Button", be legal clues if you kept using the word "Button"

clemon79 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 05, 2009, 11:43:36 AM »

[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' post=\'222041\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 02:28 AM\']But the "missing 13" is in the elevator, because it isn't![/quote]
Admitting your own guilt upon committing the crime makes you no less guilty.

Neumms · « **Reply #40 on:** August 05, 2009, 12:50:59 PM »

Here's a clue I found funky. It came up on a $25K episode last week or the week before, can't remember the male celebrity who said it. "Things You Fail" was the subject, the clue was "an F-marked test" or "an F-scored test." That was NOT buzzed, and I believe they won the big money. Isn't "F" synonymous with "fail?"

It strikes me they've been lenient with the synonyms in the Winners' Circle.

David Levy · « **Reply #41 on:** August 05, 2009, 01:20:52 PM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'221651\' date=\'Aug 1 2009\']"Bales of Hay" and "The Scales of Justice" are actual phrases, and that's how you commonly refer to them. Saying "Hay Bales" or "Justice Scales" sound awkward and don't make as much sense. With illegal prepositional phrases (i.e. Tony Randall's "stuffings in little bottles of pills"), you can easily switch that around to say "pill bottle stuffings", although you risk being too descriptive.[/quote]
Yeah, the intention behind the prepositional rule was never to catch players in an arbitrary technicality (though it sometimes seemed that way); my understanding is that it was to prevent them from stringing together separate elements.

For example, Jackée Harry was cuckoo'd for giving the clue "a wolf on a mountain" for "things that howl." Dick explained that she could have legally said "a mountain wolf." One can examine these two phrases and observe no meaningful distinction, but "a wolf on a mountain" could just as easily be expanded to "a wolf on a mountain seeking a mate while gazing up at the night sky." A bale of hay is a single entity, while a wolf and a mountain are separate.

A mountain wolf would be single entity, but I still question that clue's legality, as I don't believe that there is such an animal as a mountain wolf (unlike a mountain goat, mountain lion or mountain gorilla).

JasonA1 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 05, 2009, 02:10:12 PM »

[quote name=\'David Levy\' post=\'222065\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 01:20 PM\']A mountain wolf would be single entity, but I still question that clue's legality, as I don't believe that there is such an animal as a mountain wolf (unlike a mountain goat, mountain lion or mountain gorilla).[/quote]

Not that it's the best clue for it, but would this be at all similar to saying "a Florida man" for the category "Things that are Tanned?"

-Jason

Twentington · « **Reply #43 on:** August 05, 2009, 02:24:20 PM »

[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'222047\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 09:27 AM\']Would "The DOOR OPEN Button", "The DOOR CLOSE Button", "The THIRD FLOOR Button", be legal clues if you kept using the word "Button"

[/quote]

I would think that those would work, seeing as you're only naming the button.

[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'222062\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 12:50 PM\']Here's a clue I found funky. It came up on a $25K episode last week or the week before, can't remember the male celebrity who said it. "Things You Fail" was the subject, the clue was "an F-marked test" or "an F-scored test." That was NOT buzzed, and I believe they won the big money. Isn't "F" synonymous with "fail?"[/quote]

Agreed. If saying the first letter gets you a cuckoo in the maingame (unless the category already dictates that all of the words begin with a certain letter), it should also get you a buzz in the WC.

BillCullen1 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 05, 2009, 03:07:45 PM »

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'222068\' date=\'Aug 5 2009, 02:10 PM\']Not that it's the best clue for it, but would this be at all similar to saying "a Florida man" for the category "Things that are Tanned?"

-Jason[/quote]

Actually, the best clue for "Things that are Tanned" is George Hamilton's skin.