Picture of TPiR's new showcase podiums

[wheelloon]

[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'224789\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 12:29 AM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'224764\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 10:10 PM\']Can't you make your point without cheap insults?

Good God, that's very low blow.[/quote]

To call the guy Doofus? I don't actively champion for either guy, but people throw in all the remarks they want about Bob Barker when his name comes up, and that doesn't seem to ruffle any feathers on this particular board. Same goes for Richard Dawson, whose talent as Feud host and game show panelist often takes a backseat in our discussion to his tyrannical tendencies during his hosting heyday.
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The defining difference between Drew and Barker (in my view), and thus where I stand, is that, whatever you think of their hosting abilities, Barker's antics backstage, putting it mildly, in particular those that went to court, have directly hurt and caused anguish to others through his egotism and other unenviable traits. Chris can pour insults upon Drew, call him every name in the book, and give a list of hosting grievances the length of some lucky guy's schlong he wants, and I will still hold Drew in higher regard than Barker, because no matter how much you think Drew's hosting sucks, whatever antics you think he's done so far have not gone out and HURT other people. I feel no sympathy for Barker whatsoever because of such...

I ultimately judge a person on their character, not their time-perfected ability to go through a show without an edit. In short, I'm with Raygor...

/Now back to your Tetris discussion. I prefer the original, that is all...

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'wheelloon\' post=\'224811\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 01:03 PM\']I ultimately judge a person on their character, not their time-perfected ability to go through a show without an edit.[/quote]

That is true.  However, if a show goes way over budget (supposedly) due to a lot of post production editing, someone has to be to blame for it happening in the first place.  Plus, like everyone else has said, it just doesn't feel like the same show anymore.

Chris' point stands.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'224812\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 10:12 AM\']Plus, like everyone else has said, it just doesn't feel like the same show anymore.[/quote]
Other'n the guy who isn't Barker at the helm, I say to you in all seriousness (and I freely admit that I haven't watched very much lately) that I haven't noticed a difference.

And I seriously SERIOUSLY question whether half of you would either if you didn't know what was going on behind the scenes.

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224814\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 01:22 PM\']And I seriously SERIOUSLY question whether half of you would either if you didn't know what was going on behind the scenes.[/quote]

It isn't hard to tell something is going on when Drew and contestant walks over to the pricing game and throws to the prize plug. Then when it goes back, you hear obvious canned applause and Drew is already explaining the rules of the game with something to the effect of "Now what you're gonna do in this game is..."  I've noticed that on multiple shows (albeit when I have TRIED to watch the show,) and I don't even watch regularly.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'224816\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 11:39 AM\']Then when it goes back, you hear obvious canned applause[/quote]
Herein invalidates your argument. The average viewer has no idea that applause is canned.

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224817\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 02:43 PM\']Herein invalidates your argument. The average viewer has no idea that applause is canned.[/quote]

Fair enough.  It's still an edit.  The whole point is:  the show is much better off being done without stopping (if possible).  That's not what's going on now.  Surely that point can't be invalidated.

[chris319]

if a show goes way over budget (supposedly) due to a lot of post production editing, someone has to be to blame for it happening in the first place.

You don't know that they haven't budgeted for additional edit time, etc. It just makes the show more expensive to do.

I will still hold Drew in higher regard than Barker, because no matter how much you think Drew's hosting sucks, whatever antics you think he's done so far have not gone out and HURT other people. I feel no sympathy for Barker whatsoever because of such...

The same could be said for any emcee who isn't Bob Barker. Having seen both men do the same show, I'd take Todd Newton over Drew any day. Todd at least has discernable emcee skills.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'224818\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 12:10 PM\']The whole point is:  the show is much better off being done without stopping (if possible).  That's not what's going on now.  Surely that point can't be invalidated.[/quote]
And I'd be much better off if Heather Davis were sitting on my lap feeding me those little hot dogs right now. Both are not realities in 2009.

You're also changing the argument. The only point I was responding to was:
[quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'224812\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 10:12 AM\']Plus, like everyone else has said, it just doesn't feel like the same show anymore.[/quote]
...and I'm suggesting that to the average viewer at home, the one who neither knows nor cares how the show is actually produced, that besides the new guy in the glasses hosting it, that's not the case.

[wheelloon]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'224814\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 01:22 PM\'][quote name=\'NicholasM79\' post=\'224812\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 10:12 AM\']Plus, like everyone else has said, it just doesn't feel like the same show anymore.[/quote]
Other'n the guy who isn't Barker at the helm, I say to you in all seriousness (and I freely admit that I haven't watched very much lately) that I haven't noticed a difference.
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Agreed and seconded 100%. I see nothing more wrong with the show now that I didn't see before, and I enjoy it just as much so. It is, as someone else mentioned, still more enjoyable now than when having to watch Barker go "HURRY UP OR YOU'LL LOSE YOUR TURN," or "LET'S GO ALREADY," or "Mary... MARY... MARYYYYYYYY, I NEED YOUR BID" every other day...

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224819\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 03:13 PM\']

I will still hold Drew in higher regard than Barker, because no matter how much you think Drew's hosting sucks, whatever antics you think he's done so far have not gone out and HURT other people. I feel no sympathy for Barker whatsoever because of such...

The same could be said for any emcee who isn't Bob Barker. Having seen both men do the same show, I'd take Todd Newton over Drew any day. Todd at least has discernable emcee skills.
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While our opinions whether Newton has discernable emcee skills (or at least, any significantly more than Drew currently shows) may differ, I do agree with your original and underlying point...

[J.R.]

Honestly, I don't care if people like Drew's hosting or not, I just think the name calling is totally unnecessary.

Sorry if I seem like a bit of a Drew apologist at times, I just don't see what has this guy done to draw such harsh criticism. (That and I just can't bash someone who seems like such a nice person off-camera)

[chris319]

Sorry if I seem like a bit of a Drew apologist at times, I just don't see what has this guy done to draw such harsh criticism. (That and I just can't bash someone who seems like such a nice person off-camera)

In my opinion, he does a thoroughly mediocre job of emceeing the show. His performances are inconsistent, he can't conceal his moods from the audience, he doesn't "get it" when it comes to building suspense, he doesn't foment excitement, it appears that he doesn't have all the games down, etc. It's not my money, but IMO he's way overpaid despite these shortcomings. Todd, since a certain Fremantle person started working with him, has improved greatly and has all of these things down slick.

Neither you nor I nor almost anyone on this board knows what kind of guy he is off camera. I'll leave it to others to draw inferences from what they may read on other boards.

Again, all of this is just my personal opinion.

[Bill Neuweiler]

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224759\' date=\'Sep 2 2009, 09:20 PM\']

Drew spoke the wrong numbers at the end of a game, Drew forgot to mention a bonus during a game

For $7 million per year and after 2+ years, you'd think Doofus McGoofus would do better than this now.

The last time I was in the studio (and the last time I saw the show), Doofus took the contestant to the downstage side of the Take Two board instead of the upstage side like he's supposed to. It didn't require an edit but it sure as Hades had Bart squealing like a greased little piggy.

How long did the taping you saw take in total?
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The first show had a major stop down because the showcase podiums refused to work.  that was probably better than two hours.  The second show we went to the next day started 45 mintues late, and we were probably in the studio for another hour and a half.

[bandit_bobby]

Since the displays on the Showcase podiums are now video screens, there always is the very slim possibility a Showcase of at least $100,000 could be offered on the 38th season premiere- or more likely, somebody who makes an insane bid of $1 Million or something close to that.

[chris319]

The first show had a major stop down because the showcase podiums refused to work. that was probably better than two hours.

Ouch! That's shocking, considering the reputation CBS Electronics has for doing solid work.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'224829\' date=\'Sep 3 2009, 02:38 PM\']Neither you nor I nor almost anyone on this board knows what kind of guy he is off camera.[/quote]
He looks pretty damned cheerful at Sounders F.C. matches.

/of course, a stadium of 32,000 screaming fans will do that to even a minority owner