CBS @ 75; An NBC Clip?

[Ian Wallis]

If they can find the CBS run of "The Joker's Wild", originally thought to be long-lost, they should also be able to find "Gambit".

While I hope they still exist somewhere, even if they were to find them would it do us any good?  GSN probably wouldn't be interested in running them, so how would we ever see them?

Having said that, there might be hope of at least a portion of the run still being around...according to old TVGuides I have, a few stations did air repeats in the late '70s, including WPIX.  Unfortunatly I missed the game show part of the special (I'd like to eventuallly see it somehow), but if they used a clip from NBC, that could mean that the NBC version still exists.

[Jimmy Owen]

I wonder if CBS contacted Nick Nicholson or Roger Muir when the network found the "Spin-Off" tapes?  These shows should exist if only because no one reuses two inch quad tapes anymore.  I'm hoping Nick was given those 65 huge blue plastic boxes of tapes and has them safely stored somewhere at his house!

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 07:58 AM\'] Well who spotted the Peter clip which was from the pilot of Rodeo Drive!!

John [/quote]
 I spotted the clip, but didn't know it was from the Rodeo Drive pilot. They picked a very obscure show to show a clip from, I'll say that.

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Nov 2 2003, 10:00 PM\'] That's right, game show fans!

They showed a clip from Las Vegas Gambit which was on NBC!  Even though Gambit was on CBS, the set was definately Las Vegas.

Looks like NBC should send them a thank you note! [/quote]
 That LV Gambit clip, as well as the Peter T. clip, came from the NBC Carl Reiner-hosted 1984 "Wonderful GS moments special", which featured a clip from a CBS show, namely PYL.

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 09:11 AM\']

Having said that, there might be hope of at least a portion of the run still being around...according to old TVGuides I have, a few stations did air repeats in the late '70s, including WPIX.  Unfortunatly I missed the game show part of the special (I'd like to eventuallly see it somehow), but if they used a clip from NBC, that could mean that the NBC version still exists. [/quote]
 It is possible that whomever syndicated those Gambit reruns would still have them in a vault someplace. We know where the LV Gambit clip came from. Perhaps MGM does have some or all of either Gambit version out there, but again, would GSN be interested in airing them(but there is that upcoming Gambling cable channel, too?)

[HSquares2003]

[quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 02:03 AM\']

If they can find the CBS run of "The Joker's Wild", originally thought to be long-lost, they should also be able to find "Gambit".

That's specious reasoning. "Joker" reruns were found more or less accidentally, not as part of a mission. "Joker" also became a long-running, profitable franchise in syndication, which was more of an incentive to preserve the tapes (even if they were just forgotten about for many years). "Gambit" episodes are completely unattached to all of this, nevermind that, unlike "Joker," "Gambit" was run by a packaging company with a rather poor track record for preservation anyway. [/quote]
 Weren't those Joker Wild episodes on GSN during the daytime in 2001 the CBS ones?

Don't believe everything you here, a lot of episodes of CLASSIC game shows EXIST, GSN is too CHEAP to RUN them!


(climbs off soapbox and returns the board to normal programming already in progress )

[HSquares2003]

[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 10:56 AM\'] [quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 07:58 AM\'] Well who spotted the Peter clip which was from the pilot of Rodeo Drive!!

John [/quote]
I spotted the clip, but didn't know it was from the Rodeo Drive pilot. They picked a very obscure show to show a clip from, I'll say that. [/quote]
 Me neither. I thought maybe I was losing it and the PYL backdrop became solid orange for one show

So, I would venture to say(unless I blinked) there were no CS(Eubanks), Pyramid, or Ray Combs Feud clips?

A darn shame that those shows were forgotten by Les Moonves

[inturnaround]

[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 10:20 AM\'] So, I would venture to say(unless I blinked) there were no CS(Eubanks), Pyramid, or Ray Combs Feud clips?

A darn shame that those shows were forgotten by Les Moonves

 [/quote]
 Like Moonves had anything to do with the clips package!

And if I were Les, I'd be too busy having fun with my girlfriend, Julie Chen...not that I blame him.

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 10:17 AM\']
Weren't those Joker Wild episodes on GSN during the daytime in 2001 the CBS ones?

 [/quote]
 The clip we saw last night on the special came from January 1974, and GSN ran only September 1972-April 1973 episodes before they were sadly taken off the GSN schedule, probably due to their datedness and lack of ratings.

[joshg]

And if I were Les, I'd be too busy having fun with my girlfriend, Julie Chen...not that I blame him.

So, that's how she got that job on "Big Bother"...


JOSH

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 08:17 AM\'] Don't believe everything you here, a lot of episodes of CLASSIC game shows EXIST, GSN is too CHEAP to RUN them! [/quote]
 That is a flat-out idiotic comment.

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'HSquares2003\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 10:17 AM\'] [quote name=\'Adam Nedeff\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 02:03 AM\']

If they can find the CBS run of "The Joker's Wild", originally thought to be long-lost, they should also be able to find "Gambit".

That's specious reasoning. "Joker" reruns were found more or less accidentally, not as part of a mission. "Joker" also became a long-running, profitable franchise in syndication, which was more of an incentive to preserve the tapes (even if they were just forgotten about for many years). "Gambit" episodes are completely unattached to all of this, nevermind that, unlike "Joker," "Gambit" was run by a packaging company with a rather poor track record for preservation anyway. [/quote]
Weren't those Joker Wild episodes on GSN during the daytime in 2001 the CBS ones?

Don't believe everything you here, a lot of episodes of CLASSIC game shows EXIST, GSN is too CHEAP to RUN them!


(climbs off soapbox and returns the board to normal programming already in progress ) [/quote]
 No, GSN is not to cheap to air them.  It is not feasable.  

Cheap is a term indicating that the product is low quality--GSN is not. (Even to those of you who complain that GSN won't show Hot Potato).  From an economic standpoint, the opportunity cost of airing Greed is greater than that of some 30-year old show that few people would care about.

On a side note--Didn't the Spin Off tapes show in the same vault as the CBS Jokers?

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 11:36 AM\']

On a side note--Didn't the Spin Off tapes show in the same vault as the CBS Jokers? [/quote]
 Yeah, both were found when WCBS did some housecleaning in 2000.

[uncamark]

[quote name=\'matchgame\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 11:06 AM\']

And if I were Les, I'd be too busy having fun with my girlfriend, Julie Chen...not that I blame him.

So, that's how she got that job on "Big Brother"...[/quote]
Les was still (supposedly) happily married when she got "BB."  I'm not going to conjecture any details, but he and Julie fell in love sometime thereafter.  Now he's divorced, her "Early Show" and "Big Brother" gigs are very secure and they're not trying to hide anything.

I have to think, though, that if Cronkite saw that she was sharing the stage with him, Rather, Wallace, Safer and Bradley and taking a curtain call with them at the end of the CBS News package last night, he would have every right to stalk offstage in a huff.

[cweaver]

[quote name=\'DrBear\' date=\'Nov 3 2003, 12:05 AM\'] Nope. Carter was on WML when he was Governor of Georgia in the early 70s, long before he was running for President. And I remember the clip from WML@25 as that's the only place I've ever seen it. [/quote]
 You missed the point of what I said.  I never denied he was on WML 1975 or earlier (he would've had to be).  But in 1975, WML@25 didn't use the clip because in 1975, Carter was still not that well known.  He was still being called "Jimmy Who?" by the media in the 1976 primaries.  What I am saying is, they had no reason to use the clip in the WML@25 special.

If you find a copy of that, I am positive (unless it was inserted in a rerun performance, which I doubt) the Carter clip was not in WML@25.  They opened with Gerald Ford (who was President in '75, when the special was made) in his '69 appearance when he was in Congress.  One of the panelists guessed he was a Republican.  It was the only syndicated clip to be used in the special and it's mentioned in Gil Fates' book.  I am positive of this and will bet money on it.

The Carter clip has been on other specials, including at least one that looked back at the 1970s.