Author Topic: I guess nobody here reads Esquire magazine (Read 15027 times)

BrandonFG · « **Reply #45 on:** July 12, 2010, 05:00:22 PM »

[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'243989\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 03:15 PM\']Fascinating article. Notably, Drew is quoted as saying "We'd just fired Roger Dobkowitz, and all the fan groups were upset about it". Assuming the author doesn't have a bias, I'm surprised this statement even exists -- and the "we" implies Drew had a hand in it.[/quote]
I'm not seeing it. My job laid off about 15-20 employees last year. When I've brought up the layoffs in casual conversation, I've said "we", even though I didn't have anything to do with it. I don't think it implies anything other than the show he works for fired Roger Dobkowitz.

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And, of course, the end of the show is referred to as the "Showcase Showdown".

From the article:

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On the best game shows, the contestants go on a journey, climbing toward an almost mystical apex. The Price Is Right ends with the Showcase, the final showdown between the two players who have traveled from the audience to Contestant's Row, up onstage, through a pricing game, and past the Big Wheel.

Unless it was corrected from the print or original online version, it's correct.

BrandonFG · « **Reply #46 on:** July 12, 2010, 05:11:23 PM »

I'm reading the article now...very intriguing, and read Michi-Matt's note that this is from the same guy who gave us the Ebert article, which I thought was a friggin' masterpiece. So, I'm not surprised.

It also puts a lot of things in perspective, but I can't help feeling the crew overreacted in their handling of the situation, mainly Drew asking whether the show could air. I can understand them being pissed at Ted, considering the budget, but to penalize Terry by not airing his episode is a bit extreme IMO. That being said, I think he is trying to cover for Ted, which really isn't all that necessary since what they did was perfectly legit.

It also gives me a better view of Terry...a man who exposed a flaw, but isn't necessarily the bad guy hell-bent on his 15 minutes.

Mr. Brown · « **Reply #47 on:** July 12, 2010, 05:26:03 PM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'244004\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 04:00 PM\']Unless it was corrected from the print or original online version, it's correct.[/quote]

It's the same in the printed version. A few people have chosen not to read the article carefully, seeing the words "Showcase" and "showdown" (note the lower-case "s") and thinking, "ZOMG THEY GOT IT WRONG!", despite the fact the article is obviously very well researched.

MikeK · « **Reply #48 on:** July 12, 2010, 05:32:42 PM »

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'243977\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 12:06 PM\']The article mentioned Ted had been in the audience 37 times. On the Oct 5, 2006 show that several of us attended, does anybody know if this guy was in the audience that day? Something a little weird happened on one of the IUFBs. Maybe I'm wrong...Doug? Don? Mike?[/quote]
Yes. Aaron Huertas, who was in our group, bid $1063 on a set of chrome weights. The ARP was $1063. None of us gave him that bid. Guess who was a row behind us? Ted. I gave him a glare as we left because there was something I didn't like about the guy, and this was before I found out he gave the $1063 bid.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #49 on:** July 12, 2010, 06:17:00 PM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'244005\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 05:11 PM\']It also puts a lot of things in perspective, but I can't help feeling the crew overreacted in their handling of the situation, mainly Drew asking whether the show could air. I can understand them being pissed at Ted, considering the budget, but to penalize Terry by not airing his episode is a bit extreme IMO.[/quote]
Once again, I really think that paragraph described the feelings and opinions that were going on in a relatively small window of time. Because after all, ultimately, how did they overreact? The show DID air and Terry DID get his prizes and his moment of fame.

Remember, people were just as crazed behind the scenes as Michael Larson was doing his thing. Is he cheating? Do we stop him? Can we air it? It's easy for us to look back on something that's already happened and say what we would do, but dealing with it in the exact moment it's happening is a different matter. I can't help thinking that even with Roger and Bob in charge, there would have been a stopdown while they figured out exactly how to go forward.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #50 on:** July 12, 2010, 06:33:20 PM »

Imagine if WOF used the same bonus puzzle every 10 days or so. How long before someone picked up on that and took advantage?

TLEberle · « **Reply #51 on:** July 12, 2010, 06:37:27 PM »

They're Wheel contestants. It'd be a while.

(No offense to those who fill the intersection of "intelligent," "contestant on Wheel of Fortune" and "member of this message board," because I'm not referring to you.)

SRIV94 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 12, 2010, 07:42:07 PM »

[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'244007\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 04:32 PM\'][quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'243977\' date=\'Jul 12 2010, 12:06 PM\']The article mentioned Ted had been in the audience 37 times. On the Oct 5, 2006 show that several of us attended, does anybody know if this guy was in the audience that day? Something a little weird happened on one of the IUFBs. Maybe I'm wrong...Doug? Don? Mike?[/quote]
Yes. Aaron Huertas, who was in our group, bid $1063 on a set of chrome weights. The ARP was $1063. None of us gave him that bid. Guess who was a row behind us? Ted. I gave him a glare as we left because there was something I didn't like about the guy, and this was before I found out he gave the $1063 bid.
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I stand corrected. I was oblivious to the whole thing.

So he has unofficially and/or officially been banned, meaning I won't see him a month from now in Studio 33?

Terry K · « **Reply #53 on:** July 13, 2010, 05:08:40 AM »

Kniess was a weather guy here in Springfield for a couple years on KSPR. So, I consulted YouTube™ and found his demo reel...He was cheesy back then...(and still is)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiEIHhz3mlY...t=1&index=2

Now...his Neice (no pun intended) showed up on TPIR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RON7WhBd_As

Draw your own conclusions on that one

Also...he's written a BOOK about this. Yes, a book. I'm not going to give him a free plug for it, other than to say it exists.

Legal Disclaimer: I'm not Kniess. Yes, I'm Terry K, but not *that* Terry K. Thank goodness.

chris319 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 13, 2010, 02:06:53 PM »

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how did they overreact? The show DID air and Terry DID get his prizes and his moment of fame.

They did do a little post production on that show. While Terry was fielding his bid from Ted in the audience, they went to the shot on camera 1 which had been enlarged to frame Terry out of it.

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Also...he's written a BOOK about this. Yes, a book.

Good gravy. What are the chances of any sane publisher touching this with a 10-foot pole?

Note to CBS security: be on the lookout for a guy wearing glasses, a fake nose and moustache who introduces himself as "Fred Dawson".

clemon79 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 13, 2010, 02:29:50 PM »

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'244041\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 11:06 AM\']Good gravy. What are the chances of any sane publisher touching this with a 10-foot pole?[/quote]
Publishers? What are those?

JakeT · « **Reply #56 on:** July 13, 2010, 11:46:10 PM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'243936\' date=\'Jul 11 2010, 12:02 PM\']I'm sure they were aware of the G-R site (and this one too) for quite some time, but probably didn't expect there to be people memorizing prizes, ready to pull a Charlie Babbitt any moment.[/quote]

Actually, wouldn't that be pulling a "Raymond Babbitt"?"

Jake T

BrandonFG · « **Reply #57 on:** July 14, 2010, 08:35:21 AM »

[quote name=\'JakeT\' post=\'244086\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 11:46 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'243936\' date=\'Jul 11 2010, 12:02 PM\']I'm sure they were aware of the G-R site (and this one too) for quite some time, but probably didn't expect there to be people memorizing prizes, ready to pull a Charlie Babbitt any moment.[/quote]

Actually, wouldn't that be pulling a "Raymond Babbitt"?"
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Oops! Got my Babbitt brothers mixed up...you are correct. :-)

TLEberle · « **Reply #58 on:** July 14, 2010, 10:17:09 AM »

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'244100\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 05:35 AM\']Oops! Got my Babbitt brothers mixed up...you are correct. :-)[/quote]Obviously no one'll be making that sort of movie about you, sir.

ClockGameJohn · « **Reply #59 on:** July 16, 2010, 02:30:01 AM »

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'244041\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 02:06 PM\']Good gravy. What are the chances of any sane publisher touching this with a 10-foot pole?[/quote]

Pretty good.

If Drew figured the show wasn't going to air and the common theme was "fuck that guy," why even finish the show?