Where do you differ from the norm?

[chad1m]

I think most of those moments ("You fool" and "French" included) were originally funny and they still can be to newbies or if re-visited once in a while. But just like Top 40 radio, the constant overplaying and familiarity with them decreases their likability or enjoyable to our subculture.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'247127\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 09:48 AM\']I think most of those moments ("You fool" and "French" included) were originally funny and they still can be to newbies or if re-visited once in a while.[/quote]
I'll spot you "YOU FOOL!", but I'm gonna disagree with the "French" one. I've seen it precisely once and my sole reaction was "WTF?" I don't understand what THEY were laughing at, much less what I'M supposed to.

And since we all know I'm a miserable humorless bastard, I'm sure I'm alone in that opinion.

[MSTieScott]

I agree with those who don't get the humor of the "French" incident. And I've only seen it once or twice, as well.

I can understand why people don't like "Supermarket Sweep" and "Legends of the Hidden Temple." I like both of those shows, but I still can't come up with an explanation as to why.

[Ian Wallis]

-The "You Fool!" moment from the Bergeron version of HS really isn't as funny as many people make it out to be.

First time I saw it I was laughing so hard I was in tears.  However, I agree that in repeated viewings it wouldn't be as funny.

[GameShowGuru]

[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'247116\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 09:41 AM\']-The "You Fool!" moment from the Bergeron version of HS really isn't as funny as many people make it out to be.[/quote]

I never thought of the "You Fool!" moment as being funny insomuch as it demonstrates that Gilbert Gottfried was a good bluffer, even when he wasn't bluffing.  I would like to say that he was good at zingers, but I never really paid attention to his zingers, so I can't comment.

A model HS celebrity is one who can give (original) zingers as well as they can effectively bluff the contestants.  From what I've seen, very few celebrities, if any, can do both with equal effectiveness.

[GameShowGuru]

Another insight (which may or may not differ from the norm):

I think those game shows which come off as "stereotypically cheesy game shows" actually in its own right is part of its charm, because from those shows I have seen, it is often those that you can clearly see that everyone from the contestant to the host to the audience are having a genuinely good time in playing/participating in the game.  I think it is in part due to the low stakes prizes or endgames with the modest bonus cash/prize, so there isn't nearly as much pressure to be correct or luck out.  (The recent YT Dealer's Choice ep and the Face the Music ep with the three over-energetic contestants which included the Mandel Ilagen lookalike comes to mind when I say this).  It may look and be stereotypically cheesy, but it also looks like a lot of fun to participate in.

[Twentington]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'246891\' date=\'Sep 5 2010, 04:23 PM\']Confession #2: I enjoy Whammy! [/quote]

So do I. And I actually found Todd to be quite tolerable on here — his lack of indoor voice didn't bother me in the least.

[quote name=\'narzo\' post=\'247013\' date=\'Sep 6 2010, 06:51 PM\']Don't care for Meredith Vieira's hosting style on WWTBAM, can't watch the show because of her[/quote]

Agreed with this one. I especially hate how she says "Ohhhhhhh, I'm sooooooooooo sorry" in the phoniest way after Every. Single. Wrong. Answer.

[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247082\' date=\'Sep 7 2010, 08:29 PM\']- I will never understand why so many people have a soft spot for Supermarket Sweep...[/quote]

This too. It just seemed so boring and cheesy in a bad way. That, and David Ruprecht reminded me a lot of a high school teacher whom I despised.

Also, another off-the-board pick... I think Donnymid had the best Pyramid set, albeit by a narrow margin over the CBS set.

[jmangin]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'247128\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 01:13 PM\']...I'm gonna disagree with the "French" one. I've seen it precisely once and my sole reaction was "WTF?" I don't understand what THEY were laughing at, much less what I'M supposed to.[/quote]
Of that entire clip, what I found the funniest was the "pate"/"chopped liver" exchange. The rest seems like it was a "it would have been funnier if you were there in person" kind of thing.

I prefer Dennis James to Barker. Dennis seemed so much more affable than Barker during the period they were both hosting, and I wonder what would have happened long-term if their hosting duties were switched (Dennis in the daytime, Barker at night).

I never understood why some fans were so interested to see if Time is Money would be returning to TPIR. I felt the gameplay was overall poorly planned out.

I think the gameplay of Triple Play is stupid and the game is just an excuse to offer three cars.

I've also never liked Rich Fields and am glad he's gone. His over-the-top screaming was very grating.

I enjoyed the bonus game to Rodeo Drive.

[WarioBarker]

WHERE I DIFFER FROM THE NORM (maybe):
-Among the many things on my game show wantlist is the circulating episode of Shopper's Casino (9/8/87).

-I don't like most shows from the past decade, since they seem intent on being dark and moody with "contestants" who look like they were coached to act as stupid as possible.

-I can't stand early episodes of Shop 'Til You Drop. The "gag prizes" in the Bonus Round just kill any of the fun, and I can see why they were ousted.

-I get agitated when none of the press material/commercials for Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? use the full title. Do they even realize the show has an actual name?

-Wheel of Fortune has simply not been interesting for most of the past decade, and the pathetic attempts to whitewash its own history are sickening (I really think Friedman fed that infamous line to Robin Leach* for his article on Nighttime Season 28). [sarcasm]What's next, taking down all the contradictory YouTube videos? Vandalizing the contradictory Wikipedia articles? Burning all the contradictory master tapes in the Wheel storehouse?[/sarcasm]

-I think Bob Barker needs to get off his high horse about banning the fur coat episodes, seemingly because he wants nobody to know he was ever associated with them. I recall hearing that BCI offered pre-show disclaimers and charity donations if Bob would just allow the entire first week from '72 on the DVD set, because BCI knew that was what the fans wanted...and he declined.

-I want to see Dennis James' Price run on DVD, by season. GSN apparently didn't want to touch the <50 they could air, even though they were airing rarer shows in "Sunday Night In Black & White" and despite the Dark Period forcing almost every other Goodson-Todman show off the schedule. Seriously, what plausible reason is there for not airing those James episodes other than "Bob hates Dennis and decided to be a jackass"? Both were dick moves on Barker's part, but then again he's had a lot of experience making "dick moves".

[quote name=\'gameshowlover87\' post=\'247116\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 09:41 AM\']-I didn't think Joe Theismann was THAT bad as the original host of American Gladiators, even though, obviously, Mike Adamle was the better host.[/quote]

-I didn't think Joe Theismann was THAT bad as the original host of American Gladiators, even though, obviously, Mike Adamle was the better host.

Which makes it a mark on Shout Factory that none of Theismann's episodes (the first 13 shows of the series) are present on "The Battle Begins" DVD release, even though such a name implies otherwise. It would've been on my bookshelf right now had those episodes been in there.

-Super Password is my all time favorite version of the show, and Bert Convy is my all-time favorite Password host.

-The $100,000 Pyramid with John Davidson isn't as bad as so many people say it is (even though Davidson was no Dick Clark)

*nod nod*

-I really, REALLY, cannot stand Bob Barker, especially given his real-life persona, which makes it hard for me to watch his era of TPIR these days, and wish he had never gotten the job. Bill Cullen, Dennis James, Tom Kennedy, Doug Davidson, and Drew Carey, are way better than him.

I'm thankful I'm not the only one that thinks so...although I do enjoy Barker shows pre-1988 (when he became Executive Producer and things started going downhill behind-the-scenes). Seriously, considering all he did, how does the man live with himself?

* That Pat and Vanna have hosted together since the show's 1981 debut on NBC, which is not only at least three kinds of wrong but completely rules out any possibility of other hosts or hostesses.

[EDIT 6/12/15: Fixed broken formatting.]

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'247081\' date=\'Sep 7 2010, 03:59 PM\']I don't think it's very nice or very fair to criticize someone like that,[/quote] You are completely right that it isn't nice. But it is fair to criticize someone for an opinion that seems as strange as saying the question-asking on "Sale of the Century" was dull.

[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'247127\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 09:48 AM\']I think most of those moments ("You fool" and "French" included) were originally funny and they still can be to newbies or if re-visited once in a while. But just like Top 40 radio, the constant overplaying and familiarity with them decreases their likability or enjoyable to our subculture.[/quote]So...tastes change?

"You Fool" was funny because the game was going downhill. French was not funny (to me, anyway) because Dick was trying to drag everything away from the game and wouldn't just be done with it.

To me, anyway.

[DjohnsonCB]

Okay, I'll supply the 100th reply here...

Obviously, I seem to be the only one who thinks Spin-Off got a bum deal and ought to have its reruns revived on GSN at any cost, or at least come back in a somewhat retooled version.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'247179\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 10:14 PM\']and ought to have its reruns revived on GSN at any cost[/quote]
Here's where you lost me.

/and anyone else with any understanding of network economics at all, ever

[Mr. Brown]

I like it when Drew Carey messes with the grocery products used in certain pricing games. It's funny. Laugh.

Based on episodes of TPIR hosted by Dennis James that I've seen, he uses a lot of "filler" when talking. To me, it's the equivalent of Drew's "uhs" and "umms".

The new Lets Make a Deal sucks, but Wayne Brady is a decent host.

Ray Combs was the best host of Family Feud. Richard Dawson's return was a traumatic event for me as a child.

Louie Anderson wasn't half bad as the host of the Feud.

Should his current venture fail, I'd like to see Jimmy Fallon host a game show. He seems like he'd be good at it.

[J.R.]

[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'247151\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 04:07 PM\']Agreed with this one. I especially hate how she says "Ohhhhhhh, I'm sooooooooooo sorry" in the phoniest way after Every. Single. Wrong. Answer.[/quote]
I've never understood this criticism of Vieira. Just because she has a calm disposition and doesn't shout from the rooftops after every right answer, Geoff Edwards style ("YOU ARE RIGHT FOR TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"), doesn't make her a bad host.

(Not saying she doesn't have valid criticisms, but I don't think that's one of them)

[quote name=\'Dan88\' post=\'247159\' date=\'Sep 8 2010, 06:15 PM\']-Wheel Of Fortune has simply not been interesting for most of the past decade, and the pathetic attempts to whitewash its own history are sickening (I really think Friedman fed that infamous line to Robin Leach* for his article on Nighttime Season 28). What's next, taking down all the contradictory YouTube videos? Vandalizing the contradictory Wikipedia articles? Burning all the contradictory master tapes in the Wheel storehouse?[/quote]
Jesus Christ. You have truly outdone yourself in the "painfully not funny" category.

[chris319]

Louie Anderson wasn't half bad as the host of the Feud.

We who think he was OK are in a small minority. I think he was a lot better than others they've had on this incarnation of FF. The stories I've heard are that he couldn't adhere to a schedule and cost them a lot of time and money for that reason.

Ray Combs was the best host of Family Feud. Richard Dawson's return was a traumatic event for me as a child.

On behalf of Jonathan Goodson, my apologies for traumatizing you. Given what a b*st*rd Dawson had been on the original run, one can't blame old man Goodson for going with someone else when they brought the show back with Combs.

I like it when Drew Carey messes with the grocery products used in certain pricing games. It's funny. Laugh.

In the old days, that could be taken two ways: Suppliers could take offense at Drew making fun of their products, or they could appreciate the extra attention he draws to their brand. Nowadays, they buy most of the grocery items at retail so there is no supplier to take offense.