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SRIV94

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TPiR 1/2/04
« on: January 02, 2004, 01:31:02 PM »
Not a summary of the show, so I put this here instead.

I've mentioned at one time (as Chris C. once explained on the old Usenet boards) that for years G/T or MGP shows carried the copyright date as the date the show was taped, not the date the show was aired.  I don't know if the first TPiR first-run episode of 2003 carried a 2003 copyright, but I did notice that today's TPiR episode did carry a 2004 copyright (and I somehow doubt the show taped yesterday or four hours ago--although I could certainly be wrong).

So are we looking at a first?  Or has this been in place for awhile and I've just been oblivious?

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2004, 02:55:26 PM »
Were the credits part of the show itself, or were they to the side like it's alwats done on CBS these days? If it's the latter, then CBS practically used "2004" instead of "2003" in the copyright, while the credits in the show itself (which we never see) probably still has "2003".

Either that, or the producers knew for a fact that the episode wouldn't be seen until 2004.

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2004, 03:58:02 PM »
[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 01:55 PM\'] Were the credits part of the show itself, or were they to the side like it's alwats done on CBS these days? If it's the latter, then CBS practically used "2004" instead of "2003" in the copyright, while the credits in the show itself (which we never see) probably still has "2003".

Either that, or the producers knew for a fact that the episode wouldn't be seen until 2004. [/quote]
 They were done to the side, so you could be right.  I never considered the possiblity of CBS "overriding" the credits to match their own philosophy (didn't think it was kosher to do that)--even in reruns they leave the copyright date as was on the original date of airing.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2004, 04:17:16 PM »
They probably knew the episodes wouldn't air until 2004 even though they were taped in 2003.  I recall that last January, many of the Osmond Pyramid shows carried the 2003 copyright year in the actual credits rolled on the show even though it was obvious that the show taped in 2002 due to it being so early in January.

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2004, 05:23:50 PM »
[quote name=\'TV Favorites\' date=\'Jan 2 2004, 03:17 PM\'] They probably knew the episodes wouldn't air until 2004 even though they were taped in 2003.  I recall that last January, many of the Osmond Pyramid shows carried the 2003 copyright year in the actual credits rolled on the show even though it was obvious that the show taped in 2002 due to it being so early in January. [/quote]
Ah, but Osmond PYRAMID isn't a MGP.  You could go back in the annuls of game shows aired in January (and obviously taped in the previous month or two) and find gazillions of shows copyrighted with the air date rather than the tape date ($otC, HSq and PYL come to mind immediately--I don't think it's necessary to list more).  But none of those were Goodson/Todman or Mark Goodson Productions shows (CS, P+, SP, FF, MG7x and daily syndie, etc.), who traditionally used tape date for its copyrights.

Now if today's Karn FF episode carries a 2004 copyright, we'll have a story!  :)

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2004, 07:22:56 PM »
I saw the 2004 Copyright date. Shows that they've kept up with the calendar!

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2004, 09:50:56 PM »
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I saw the 2004 Copyright date. Shows that they've kept up with the calendar!

Must be a new change...except for a few weeks of new FF eps in Jul. 00, I never recall a Pearson/Fremantle show that didn't go by the tape date, which is why no 100% or MG '98 eps ever carried a 1999 copyright date, for example.

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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2004, 06:54:57 AM »
Family Feud was using the new year starting with the first show aired that year for at least part of the Combs run.

(wrong company, I know, but the one week of new shows LMAD 90 aired in 1991 had the new date too.)
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2004, 09:38:58 AM »
As far as I've noticed, the 2004 Copyright has been present since shows after January 1.  The actual Price credit roll may have 2003 (we would never know), but CBS's split-screen has been 2004 since it has in fact been 2004.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2004, 10:52:52 AM »
[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Feb 3 2004, 09:38 AM\']As far as I've noticed, the 2004 Copyright has been present since shows after January 1.  The actual Price credit roll may have 2003 (we would never know), but CBS's split-screen has been 2004 since it has in fact been 2004.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure what you normally see on the split screen credits is a shortened version of what is on the full credit roll.

Unfortunately, the times I have seen the full credit roll have not had an airdate the following year.

I've never noticed if when the full credit roll is done in the director's booth, the monitors in the audience display the same thing.

Then again, if they do, I doubt many audience members look at that.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2004, 06:40:04 PM »
Considering that they only started listing Rog's name by himself as of last week, they may be matching the tape credit rolls.

(And why hasn't the Perfesser written anything about Phil's strange departure, huh?]

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2004, 09:00:53 PM »
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 3 2004, 06:40 PM\'] (And why hasn't the Perfesser written anything about Phil's strange departure, huh?] [/quote]
 What is he going to say?

You don't expect him to tell us the real reason, do you?
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