The big slide burn-out on PYL..

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 09:17 PM\'] Here's proof right here: Rule 4.10 letter e states the following:
(e) If a game is called before it has become a regulation game, the umpire shall declare it "No Game." [/quote]
 That's only the basic rule.
It's as simple as the NFHS rule for basketball that states "Whatever team that has the most points at the end of regulation wins the game".

[adamjk]

While it is basic, that's what I was trying to say in my earlier post. You made what I was saying more complicated then it was. But, if you want more proof here it is:

(4) If a suspended game has not been resumed and completed on the last date scheduled for the two clubs, it shall be a called game.

That also came from rule 4.12

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 10:07 PM\'] That can happen in baseball. If a certain number of innings have not been played (5 full innings), and rain stops play for that day, then the game does not count. Once it is an offical game though, if rain stops it, and they are unable to finish the game, then whoever is leading wins. [/quote]
 Ahem, to back what Don said... take it from someone who lives baseball, breathes baseball, announces baseball, loves baseball, and understands it.

Especially in high school and college, games are picked back up from the suspended point quite often.

It sounds like you never played baseball or been there, just thought you knew it. I've been lurking on this board lately and some of your posts are sorely lacking. I'm sorry to negatively comment on anybody, but geez!

[adamjk]

I never read those rules, until I saw them. But you guys both overcomplicated the matter. All I was trying to say, was that it is possible that a game in progress can be cancelled if not offical, meaning that the game has to be restarted from the beginning. Nothing more nothing less.

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 09:59 PM\'] I never read those rules. [/quote]
 Then perhaps you should refrain from posting until you know the scope. Nick's a huge baseball fan, in the past, I had a license to officiate varsity softball (and I still do basketball and volleyball). Leave this kind of information to those who know what they're talking about.
Now go play with your Tickle-Me-Elmo.

[JayC]

Does it really matter who's right?  Some baseball rule is nothing to continue arguing about.

[adamjk]

You know you guys act like, that in order to be a baseball fan you need to know all the little rules in the rulebook. Most fans I bet if you took a survey probably don't. Just because I don't know all the little rules of baseball, doesn't mean I don't enjoy baseball, or am not a fan. I am a big fan.

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 11:00 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 09:59 PM\'] I never read those rules. [/quote]
Then perhaps you should refrain from posting until you know the scope. Nick's a huge baseball fan, in the past, I had a license to officiate varsity softball (and I still do basketball and volleyball). Leave this kind of information to those who know what they're talking about.
Now go play with your Tickle-Me-Elmo. [/quote]
 Yes, and I have umpired Little League games and some private softball tournaments back in the day..., and this year pitched in for Daniel Boone High here in Gray, TN , I am their announcer, scorekeeper and bookkeeper.

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 11:06 PM\'] You know you guys act like, that in order to be a baseball fan you need to know all the little rules in the rulebook. Most fans I bet if you took a survey probably don't. Just because I don't know all the little rules of baseball, doesn't mean I don't enjoy baseball, or am not a fan. I am a big fan. [/quote]
 Well, most people commonly don't. But the simple fact of the matter is (getting back to the original topic), that given a scenario, it makes more logical sense to continue from the point the game was interrupted, not scrap it and start over. Those contestants get only one chance, and I for one wouldn't want to be possibly screwed out of it like that.

[Matt Ottinger]

[quote name=\'ITSBRY\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 09:50 PM\'] I guess a better question is, can a show do anything they want with the game (short of rigging it) as long as the contestants are told before hand about the rules?  I would guess that players have to read or sign a disclaimer of some kind.
 [/quote]
 Pretty much, yes.  There isn't a Commissioner of Game Shows that makes sure that the sanctity of the format is preserved.  Contestants sign off on a form that says the producers control everything and you can't do squat about it.  They have to do that to protect themselves, too many people look for loopholes and excuses and anyone but themselves to blame when things don't work out the way they'd like.

On a practical level, it's in the producer's best interest to make sure that a contestant who was victimized by a bad question or blown call gets another chance, but my understanding is that they wouldn't legally even have to do that.

[NickintheATL]

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 24 2004, 11:11 PM\'] Pretty much, yes.  There isn't a Commissioner of Game Shows that makes sure that the sanctity of the format is preserved.  Contestants sign off on a form that says the producers control everything and you can't do squat about it.  They have to do that to protect themselves, too many people look for loopholes and excuses and anyone but themselves to blame when things don't work out the way they'd like.

On a practical level, it's in the producer's best interest to make sure that a contestant who was victimized by a bad question or blown call gets another chance, but my understanding is that they wouldn't legally even have to do that. [/quote]
 And I would absolutely agree. Especially in the 50's when dealing with Barry and Enright... you had NO control over what happened.....

....but I don't want to go off topic again....

[Ian Wallis]

I recall reading something about the PYL rule book which stated that if an appropriate amount of spins hadn't been earned, the round could be scrapped and replayed.

This WAS a rule and it did happen a couple of times.  I remember one such instance where a disclaimer proceeded the end credits, and it said something to the effect of "because there weren't enough spins earned in round one, the round was played over".  When contestants got correct answers during the retaped round, Peter kept joking "now you're rolling!"

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Aug 25 2004, 11:05 AM\'] This WAS a rule and it did happen a couple of times.  I remember one such instance where a disclaimer proceeded the end credits, and it said something to the effect of "because there weren't enough spins earned in round one, the round was played over". [/quote]
 Also, I believe Mandel told us that on Whammy, if they didn't have a sufficient number of spins racked up by Question 3 or so of the Question Round, they went to a special set of Idiot Questions designed to "enhance" the spin counts. So it's not an uncommon thing.

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Aug 25 2004, 01:05 PM\']

This WAS a rule and it did happen a couple of times.  I remember one such instance where a disclaimer proceeded the end credits, and it said something to the effect of "because there weren't enough spins earned in round one, the round was played over".  When contestants got correct answers during the retaped round, Peter kept joking "now you're rolling!" [/quote]
 This must have meant the players missed some easy questions in the question round that was thrown out. Recall that sometimes the third and/or fourth questions in a round were replaced with easier ones if the spin totals were a bit low going into them. There'd be a bit of a pause while Peter found the card with the easier question(s) on them.

[digiblader]

Then how come they allowed that Round 2 in one ep. where everyone had only one puny spin each?