Game Shows Past:January 23-29, 1965

[Tim L]

I have some other TV Giudes from Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and one from New York (Journal-American), So I can change up on the listings..

Stations:
3 KYW NBC
5 WEWS ABC
8 WJW CBS

Akron
49 WAKR ABC

Youngstown
21 WFMJ NBC
27 WKBN ABC
33 WYTV CBS

Erie
12 WICU NBC ABC
35 WSEE CBS ABC

Toledo
11 WTOL CBS NBC
13 WSPD ABC NBC

Monday-Friday Daytime

9AM
12 TV Bingo-Skip Lechter
Local Erie program apparantely

9:30
35 Price Is Right

10:30
3 11 12 21 What's This Song? COLOR-"Win" (Wink) Martindale
Morey Amsterdam, Betty White Celebrity guests

11AM
3 11 12 21 Concentration

11:30
3 11 12 21 Jeopardy-Art Fleming COLOR

5 13 33 49 Price Is Right-Bill Cullen
Celebrity Guest Bidder: Constance Bennett

Noon
(KYW 3 Had Noon News and the Mike Douglas Show at 12:30)
12 21 Say When!-Art James

12:30
12 21 Truth Or Consequences-Bob Barker

1PM
33 TV Bingo-Bill Harris-Local

1:30
5 Quick As A Wink-Don Webster
Produced Locally.  Don Webster was brought in from Canada to host Channel 5's Bandstand Clone, "Upbeat", which was eventually syndicated to over 100 stations..He was a weatherman into the 1990's and hosted TV Bingo, Academic Quiz Shows, and early Ohio Lottery Telecasts.

12 Lets Make A Deal=Monty Hall

Channels 3 and 13 still had Mike Douglas, and 21 had a Women's Show "Kitchen Corner which had aired weekday afternoons since 1954!

2PM
8 27 35 Password-Allen Ludden
Hollywood:Jane Wyman, Ray Bolger

3PM
8 27 35 To Tell The Truth
Robert Q. Lewis subs for Bud Collyer.
Milt Kamen, Barry Nelson, Joan Fontaine, Phyllis Newman

3:30
3 12 13 21 You Don't Say!-Tom Kennedy COLOR
Rose Marie, Peter Lawford

4PM
3 12 13 Match Game-Gene Rayburn
Jane Withers, Marty Ingels
Channel 21 again went off-network for News Show "Page 21"

Weekend/Prime Time

Saturday, January 23 1965

10AM
5 13 33 49 Shenanigans

3PM
35 Spelling Bee
Probably in conjunction with the National Spelling Bee

6:30
12 Groucho Marx
"You Bet Your Life" Reruns

7PM
5 It's Academic-Don Cameron (Webster replaced Cameron later in the run)
Schools:Cleveland South, Garfield Heights, Ashtabula Harbor


Sunday January 24, 1965

2PM
35 Alumni Fun-Peter Lind Hayes

Sort of a "Geriatric College Bowl"
From Wisconsin:David Susskind
                        Elroy Hirsch Football Star
                         Nat Hiken (TV Writer-Car 54)
Fronm Virginia:Noverlist Erskine Caldwell
                      Under Secretary of Commerce Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr.
                      Former IRS Commissioner Mortimer J. Chaplin

4PM
27 Alumni Fun
Vanderbilt:Dinah Shore
                Dr. Hugh Luckey of New York Hospital
               Andrew Benedict-Nashville Banker

Michigan:Robert Q. Lewis
Asst. Secretary of State G. Mennen Williams
Esquire Publisher Arnold Gingrich

10:30
8 11 27 35 Whats My Line?-John Daly
Bennett Cerf, Dorothy Kilgallen. William Shatner, Kitty Carlisle
Mystery Guest:Jack Lemmon

Shatner was about to start a new CBS Drama Series:For The People, whicn lasted all of 13 weeks! slotted against Bonanza, it had no chance

Monday, January 25, 1965
7:30
8 11 27 35 To Tell The Truth
Robert Q. Lewis once again subs for Bud Collyer:
Orson Bean, Kitty Carlisle, Peggy Cass, Tom Poston

8PM
8 11 27 35 I've Got A Secret-Steve Allen
Henry Morgan, Bill Cullen, Bess Myerson, Betsy Palmer
Guest:Peter Lawford

Thursday January 28, 1965

9PM
8 27 35 Password-Allen Ludden
Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. (Would begin a 9 year ABC "FBI" Run in the fall)
Angie Dickinson

Channel 11 WTOL would air a movie "Man In The Gray Flannel Suit" 1956

Tim Lones

[BrandonFG]

These are really cool...if you ever get something from Southeast Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News), please post it! :-)

[mystery7]

[quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:16 AM\']
Stations:
3 KYW NBC
5 WEWS ABC
8 WJW CBS

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How did a Philly station like KYW end up in the listings for Akron? Must've been quite a signal they were throwin' out back then.

[davemackey]

[quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 03:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:16 AM\']
Stations:
3 KYW NBC
5 WEWS ABC
8 WJW CBS

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How did a Philly station like KYW end up in the listings for Akron? Must've been quite a signal they were throwin' out back then.

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KYW was originally licensed to Cleveland. The Philadelphia station that broadcast on Channel 3 at the time was known as WPTZ, owned by NBC. Westinghouse owned KYW in Cleveland and swapped licenses with WPTZ in June 1965. Westinghouse moved the KYW calls to Philadelphia (and Westinghouse also moved Mike Douglas' talk show from Cleveland as a result). The station was eventually acquired by CBS and is now a CBS affiliate. Thus, KYW is one of the very few stations west of the Mississippi with a call beginning with K.

[aaron sica]

[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 04:34 PM\']
KYW was originally licensed to Cleveland. The Philadelphia station that broadcast on Channel 3 at the time was known as WPTZ, owned by NBC. Westinghouse owned KYW in Cleveland and swapped licenses with WPTZ in June 1965. Westinghouse moved the KYW calls to Philadelphia (and Westinghouse also moved Mike Douglas' talk show from Cleveland as a result). The station was eventually acquired by CBS and is now a CBS affiliate. Thus, KYW is one of the very few stations west of the Mississippi with a call beginning with K.

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Another one of those stations west of the mighty Mississip starting with "K" being KDKA, of course.

Also works the other way around - as Channel 8 in Dallas (ABC) is WFAA..One of the few "W"'s to the west ...

[mystery7]

[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 04:34 PM\']
KYW was originally licensed to Cleveland. The Philadelphia station that broadcast on Channel 3 at the time was known as WPTZ, owned by NBC. Westinghouse owned KYW in Cleveland and swapped licenses with WPTZ in June 1965. Westinghouse moved the KYW calls to Philadelphia (and Westinghouse also moved Mike Douglas' talk show from Cleveland as a result). The station was eventually acquired by CBS and is now a CBS affiliate. Thus, KYW is one of the very few stations west of the Mississippi with a call beginning with K.

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I should have known that. I did, actually, but it wasn't in my personal RAM when I posted. To make up for it, I'll point out that KDKA in Pittsburgh (Cullen country!) is another Viacom-owned CBS affil. Its radio station was the very first commercial station in America.

(not feeling too smart today, so I'll refrain from commenting on Aaron's typo.)

[uncamark]

[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 03:34 PM\'][quote name=\'mystery7\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 03:57 PM\'][quote name=\'Tim L\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 11:16 AM\']
Stations:
3 KYW NBC
5 WEWS ABC
8 WJW CBS

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How did a Philly station like KYW end up in the listings for Akron? Must've been quite a signal they were throwin' out back then.

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KYW was originally licensed to Cleveland. The Philadelphia station that broadcast on Channel 3 at the time was known as WPTZ, owned by NBC. Westinghouse owned KYW in Cleveland and swapped licenses with WPTZ in June 1965. Westinghouse moved the KYW calls to Philadelphia (and Westinghouse also moved Mike Douglas' talk show from Cleveland as a result). The station was eventually acquired by CBS and is now a CBS affiliate. Thus, KYW is one of the very few stations west of the Mississippi with a call beginning with K.

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KYW Radio actually started in *Chicago* back in the 20s.  Sometime in the 40s, Westinghouse transferred the calls to Philadelphia.  Around 1950, NBC and Westinghouse made a Philadelphia-Cleveland swap which lasted for 15 years, when the FCC ordered the owners to swap back, for whatever reason.  At that time, the NBC-owned radio and TV stations in Philly were known as WRCV.

Now, WKYC-TV is owned by Gannett and the former WKYC Radio was sold by NBC back in the early 70s and is now owned by Clear Channel as WTAM, its pre-Westinghouse calls.  (It was known in the 70s and 80s as WWWE--"3WE.")

ObGameShow, sort of:  Syndicated "Truth of Consequences" organist Dave Bacal was a staff musician at KYW in Chicago back in the 30s and 40s, billed as "The Singing Organist."

[Tim L]

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 13 2004, 03:07 PM\']These are really cool...if you ever get something from Southeast Virginia (Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Newport News), please post it! :-)

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I would love to..But I have a somewhat limited number of TV Listings to draw from..
Cleveland from July 1953..(possibly the first National TV Guide with Cleveland listings-from Microfilm copy)
Cleveland June 1961
Cleveland January 1965
Cleveland October 1973
Cleveland December 1974
Cleveland July 1975 (All TV Guide)
Pittsburgh February-March 1953 (Known as TV Digest-Pre TV Guide publication)
Pittsburgh May 1958 TV Guide
Southern Ohio April 1958 (Columbus/Cincinnati/Dayton) TV Guide
Southern Ohio May 1959 TV Guide
Southern Ohio December 1968 (Christmas Week) TV Guide
New York City October 1963 (New York Journal-American Newspaper)

Except for the first-Which I got at Cleveland Public Library, All the TV Guides listed came from a used bookstore in Alliance, Ohio.  If I do any more of these it will be from these sources.

Tim Lones
Canton, Ohio

[Craig Karlberg]

Let me correct something here:

KDKA & KYW were only a few stations EAST of the Mississippi that started with a K not WEST.  Hope that clears it up.

[Jimmy Owen]

I have a complete run of 1972-75 TVGs for Eastern Virginia I purchased a few years back which covers Norfolk, Richmond, Harrisonburg, Portsmouth and Charlottesville, thanks to an ad on Classifieds.com (Is that still around?)  Is there a specific time you'd like to revisit?

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 14 2004, 12:46 PM\']I have a complete run of 1972-75 TVGs for Eastern Virginia I purchased a few years back which covers Norfolk, Richmond, Harrisonburg, Portsmouth and Charlottesville, thanks to an ad on Classifieds.com (Is that still around?)  Is there a specific time you'd like to revisit?

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Anytime from 1974, por favor and gracias. :-)

[Jimmy Owen]

Here's the game show schedule for April 20-26, 1974 for Norfolk
(3) WTAR (CBS)
(10) WAVY (NBC)
(13) WVEC (ABC)

Saturday

1:30PM (10) Celebrity Tennis

Mon-Fri
9:30   (10)Celebrity Sweepstakes
10:00  (3)Joker's Wild
10:30  (3)Gambit
       (10)Jeopardy!
11:00  (3)Now You See It
       (10)Wizard of Odds
11:30  (10)Hollywood Squares
12:00  (13)Password-Carol Burnett, Elizabeth Montomery.
12:30  (13)Split Second
1:00   (10)Jackpot! (delay from noon)
1:30   (10)Three On a Match
       (13)Let's Make a Deal
2:00   (13)Newlywed Game
2:30   (13)Girl in My Life (quasi-game show with Fred Holliday) 3:00   (3)Price Is Right
3:30   (3)Match Game-Rosey Grier, Kaye Stevens among the guests.
4:00   (3)Tattletales-Orson Bean, Alejandro Rey and spouses, Bobby Van and Elaine Joyce.

Prime Access
7:00   (3)Truth or Consequences
       (10)Dealer's Choice
7:30   (3)Checkerboard (only two game shows in this slot; the shows were Bobby Goldsboro-Monday, New Treasure Hunt-Tues, New Price Is Right-Wed, Ozzie's Girls-Thurs, Tackle Box-Fri)  
        (10)Checkerboard-Hollywood Squares (M). Inside Area 10 (T). Dating Game (W). Let's Make a Deal (Th). Squares (F).    
(13) had a movie.

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Oct 14 2004, 02:23 PM\'](Norfolk schedule snipped)

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Interesting line-up...thanks!

For some reason, I find it interesting that no one carried Concentration, but eh...

[SRIV94]

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 15 2004, 12:05 PM\']For some reason, I find it interesting that no one carried Concentration, but eh...

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If memory serves, I don't think anyone in Chicago did either (talking the Narz syndie version, not the network runs).  Mark J. could probably confirm or deny (he seems to have a knack for remembering such minutiae).  Norfolk I could understand because it's a smaller market, but for no one in Chicago to clear it is a bit of a mystery to me.

Doug

[Jimmy Owen]

Yeah, nobody carried Narz C. in Flint, either.  What was really upsetting was watching one of those "Ask the Manager" deals TV5 used to do on the noon news, where somebody would ask why they took Concentration off and the guy would say "That show is no longer available from NBC."  Which I guess was true, but he coulda called Jim Victory.  Being a TV Guide reader even back then, I knew Detroit and Grand Rapids had it, why not us?