TPiR-Live Update

[MSTieScott]

[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Nov 17 2004, 04:19 PM\']Have you heard or seen anything to suggest that people would actively tune out if Barker left, or is this simply your impression? I've been in the studio and have seen all the adulation Barker receives. I'm saying that despite the adulation he receives now, judging from audience reaction to the Live show, audiences will still be enthusiastic about the show -- perhaps not AS enthusiastic -- and some of the enthusiasm for Barker could transfer to a new emcee over time.

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I admit, this is my impression -- I haven't had a chance to ask audience members whether they'd accept a new host, or to see their reaction if I announced that Bob wouldn't be there that day. Still, just watching the show, you'll see a number of contestants who don't care that they have a chance to win _____ -- they're just ecstatic that they've gotten to "meet" Bob Barker.

I haven't been to a Harrah's show, so I don't know what the mood of the crowd is there. I did have a thought -- how many people in the audience aren't aware of exactly what that show is? I remember taking a couple of calls about the show when it first started in Atlantic City, and when the callers learned that Bob wouldn't be there/it wouldn't be televised, they were audibly disappointed. I doubt that too many people are going to the live show expecting something that it isn't, but it does make me wonder.

A lot of people randomly blurt "I love you, Bob!" during the breaks (seemingly for no reason -- what would they expect to receive for yelling it?). No one ever yells "I want to win a car!" or "I want to play Plinko!" during the breaks.

I don't doubt that there will still be an audience for the game of The Price is Right even after Bob leaves. And all I have to do is look at Trebek Jeopardy! to know that the right replacement host will keep the show alive. My concern is that there will be a drop in ratings when it happens (how much of a drop, no one knows -- I'm expressing my concern that it could be a fairly big one) and that the show will be yanked before the audience realizes that someone who isn't Bob can be a good host, too.

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Scott Robinson

[chris319]

A lot of people randomly blurt "I love you, Bob!" during the breaks (seemingly for no reason -- what would they expect to receive for yelling it?).

A dose of Ritalin?

No one ever yells "I want to win a car!" or "I want to play Plinko!" during the breaks.

Because the Plinko! board or a new car can't respond, though that never stopped people on the street from conversing with lamp posts.

[cmjb13]

I haven't had a chance to ask audience members whether they'd accept a new host, or to see their reaction if I announced that Bob wouldn't be there that day.

You wouldn't be able to tell them that. The taping for that day would be cancelled ahead of time unless it was a last minute thing.

I haven't been to a Harrah's show, so I don't know what the mood of the crowd is there. I did have a thought -- how many people in the audience aren't aware of exactly what that show is?

When I went to the show this past July, someone had asked the tickettaker if Bob was going to be there. I think he was acting comedically when he responded "No Bob Barker!"

I remember taking a couple of calls about the show when it first started in Atlantic City, and when the callers learned that Bob wouldn't be there/it wouldn't be televised, they were audibly disappointed.

Apparently enough people thought Bob would be a part of this that Ticketmaster put a disclaimer on their website saying Bob is not hosting these shows.

I don't doubt that there will still be an audience for the game of The Price is Right even after Bob leaves. And all I have to do is look at Trebek Jeopardy! to know that the right replacement host will keep the show alive.

Totally different animal, just like Wheel. All he does is read questions. Anybody can do that. Wheel and J! are shows that have game play strong enough that a host change won't collapse the show (see Richard Karn). Price requires more host interaction.

[tvrandywest]

WHOA! My original intention was to provide an update on the live show which has been discussed here before and visited by some of our members. I didn't imagine it would become a discussion about the future for our species on Earth after the centuries of Bob Barker's reign. In terms of talent and molding TPiR in his image, nobody will ever replace him. Just the same, I'd expect that if I outlive Bob, I will see somebody else come through those big doors. And it will be a sad day.

I remember taking a couple of calls about the show when it first started in Atlantic City, and when the callers learned that Bob wouldn't be there/it wouldn't be televised, they were audibly disappointed.
Apparently enough people thought Bob would be a part of this that Ticketmaster put a disclaimer on their website saying Bob is not hosting these shows.

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Say what? Who is taking calls? Do we have a Harrahs or Ticketmaster employee amongst us? The only point I was making is that there is a tremendous fan base for TPiR, as demonstrated by the fact that the live show sells out all the seats we can cram into the various showrooms. By the time I set foot on that stage, nobody sitting in that audience has any expectation of seeing Barker, and nobody seems the least bit disappointed.

I don't doubt that there will still be an audience for the game of The Price is Right even after Bob leaves. And all I have to do is look at Trebek Jeopardy! to know that the right replacement host will keep the show alive.
Totally different animal, just like Wheel. All he does is read questions. Anybody can do that. Wheel and J! are shows that have game play strong enough that a host change won't collapse the show (see Richard Karn). Price requires more host interaction.

Are you saying that FF requires a strong host, or that the FF game is so format-driven that "anybody" can do that show? Anybody.... yeah.


Randy
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[clemon79]

[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Nov 18 2004, 03:06 PM\']Totally different animal, just like Wheel. All he does is read questions. Anybody can do that.

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"And now, here's the host of Jeopardy, John Davidson!"

[zachhoran]

[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Nov 18 2004, 05:17 PM\']WHOA! My original intention was to provide an update on the live show which has been discussed here before and visited by some of our members. I didn't imagine it would become a discussion about the future for our species on Earth after the centuries of Bob Barker's reign. In terms of talent and molding TPiR in his image, nobody will ever replace him. Just the same, I'd expect that if I outlive Bob, I will see somebody else come through those big doors. And it will be a sad day.

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You might be seeing Randy West come through those big doors, ever think about that

[cmjb13]

The ticketmaster disclaimer didn't exist until about a month into the Atlantic city run. I have no definitive reason why it was added, but I'm guessing they were getting too many calls asking if Barker will be appearing.

By the time I set foot on that stage, nobody sitting in that audience has any expectation of seeing Barker, and nobody seems the least bit disappointed.

Before you buy a ticket knowing that Barker won't be there, then it's not a problem. It's when people buy a ticket thinking Barker will be there is when a problem could arise. Again, I only saw 1 person complain about this in person, and it was more of a joke than anything else.

Are you saying that FF requires a strong host, or that the FF game is so format-driven that "anybody" can do that show? Anybody.... yeah]

Feud's game is pretty sound, but you need a host that can interact and play off people as compared to reading answers and calling out dollar amounts which a lot of people can do.

[chris319]

Feud's game is pretty sound, but you need a host that can interact and play off people

Too bad they don't have one now.

[tyshaun1]

I think Karn does a servicable job hosting the Feud, most often than not, however, he tries WAY too hard for his jokes. But he does keep the show moving pretty swiftly, even with its forced 4 round, 2 people on Fast Money format.

Tyshaun

[tvwxman]

[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Nov 18 2004, 10:32 PM\']

Feud's game is pretty sound, but you need a host that can interact and play off people

Too bad they don't have one now.

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Thank you....I was thinking the EXACT same thing...

Tis a damn shame we don't have 'career' game show hosts like we used to...Richard Karn, who I'm sure is a nice guy, will never be remembered in the annals of game show history as one of the best.... IMHO, he ain't even close...

But man, is he better than Louie.

[joshg]

[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Nov 18 2004, 07:32 PM\']

Feud's game is pretty sound, but you need a host that can interact and play off people

Too bad they don't have one now.

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I miss the days when Richard and Ray would Double (and Triple) the points (dollars) and no one would hoot, holler and scream AND they would cut to a shot of the damn board with the 'DOUBLE' and 'TRIPLE' signs on it...

Half the time, I forget that 'Feud' is still on...

Chris, would Karn be good enough to host a Feud office run-thru back in the heyday of G-T?

Josh

[tvrandywest]

Before you buy a ticket knowing that Barker won't be there, then it's not a problem. It's when people buy a ticket thinking Barker will be there is when a problem could arise. Again, I only saw 1 person complain about this in person, and it was more of a joke than anything else.

I'm sure when they first hear the words TPiR some people wonder if Barker will be appearing. But that thought must disappear quickly, probably before they even visit the box office, as Todd Newton's or Mark Walberg's face is plastered on most of the in-house advertising, and the TV spots offer little opportunity for confusion.

Again, the only point: TPiR's draw is phenomenal - sold out houses, lots of home-made T-shirts on audience members, and wet-your-pants excitment from many of the contestants... and only some of that is due to the local lovely Barkers' Beauties   ;-)

Chris, would Karn be good enough to host a Feud office run-thru back in the heyday of G-T?

It's for Chris to answer, but I have two words: JOE NAMATH!


Randy
tvrandywest.com

[davewalls]

Again, the only point: TPiR's draw is phenomenal - sold out houses, lots of home-made T-shirts on audience members, and wet-your-pants excitment from many of the contestants..

Now wait a minute Randy, I don't believe I wet my pants when I hit the putt for Las Vegas. Now, I almost assualted Mark L. with the putter, but that's another story all together.

Dave (from Mark L.'s first night in AC)

[tvwxman]

[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' date=\'Nov 19 2004, 12:44 PM\']

Chris, would Karn be good enough to host a Feud office run-thru back in the heyday of G-T?

It's for Chris to answer, but I have two words: JOE NAMATH!


Randy
tvrandywest.com

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I'm not Chris, but I'd like to chime in (again) with this....

Yes, Joe Namath is a good example...but Joe hosting on TV never saw the light of day, and Richard is there 5 days a week...

Now , I know what you're going to say  : "Well, Rich is in his 3rd year of doing this, he must be doing something right" and that may be so, but I don't believe for one second that he's the best for the job....and wish the standards for hosting were a little higher.....If they were, Richard might have joined Joe and Dolly as hosts who were a good idea on paper, and nothing more....

[tvrandywest]

Now wait a minute Randy, I don't believe I wet my pants when I hit the putt for Las Vegas. Now, I almost assualted Mark L. with the putter, but that's another story all together.

Depends!!  

And congrats again. I forgot... what line did you putt from, and was it "Hole in One" or "Hole in Two"?


Randy
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