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[ET206]

"High Rollers" and "Match Game"

[Red]

I'd probably have to say Card Sharks and Super Password.

Card Sharks would be good as long as it wasnt anything close to the 01 version.

Super Password would also be good. I would have said Password, but we're in the 21st century, so all shows of course have to have some gimmick.

[Craig Karlberg]

If it were me(& thankfully, it's just a fantasy schedule), I'd go with the Concentration crowd & throw in a weekday version of Let's Make A Deal(even though the prime time version flopped).  For Deal, I'd stick with the basic formats with new twists & slight variations.

[GSWitch]

You all have good ideas!  I agree were due for another Concentration.

My other vote would have to belong to Win, Lose or Draw since I loved Vicki (Mama Thelma Harper) Lawrence hosting it!

[14gameshows]

Has anyone ever thought about putting the game shows in the afternoon like the NBC aff in Atlanta does.  IIRC, that station had two hours of game shows in the afternoon.  I think it had Millionaire, H2, Jeopardy! and Pyramid, IIRC.  I think that can appeal to the youngin's since they get out of school and will be home in time for those shows and also around 2ish is when the main soaps are over and the others on ABC and CBS start to drag at that time.  Look at the ratings of ATWT, GL, OLTL, and GH.  They aren't as high as Y & R, B & B, and DAYS.  I would throw some kickin' tail game shows that would dominate the afternoon schedule.  So with this in mind here is my revamped NBC daytime schedule line-up.

9am          (syndicated programming)
10am        (syndicated programming)
11am        Passions
12pm        (syndicated programming/local news)
1pm          Days of our Lives
2pm          $ale of the Century
2:30pm     Card Sharks
3pm          Password
3:30pm     Scrabble

[tyshaun1]

Actually, to go a bit off topic, DAYS' ratings have been faltering of late, often finishing at a tie with OLTL, and certainly below GH. NBC's daytime ratings overall have been pretty poor of late. In fact, B&B's ratings have slipped somewhat due to All My Children's resurgence with their baby-swap story coming to a head.
Getting back on topic, I think you'd have to go with Wheel and $ale, NBC longest-running shows of the 80's, and build from there.

Tyshaun

[Jimmy Owen]

An NBC "Wheel" has the problem of station mangagers running what would be a cheaper version of a show that might be the prime attraction in the most important time period on their competition.  Essentially a thirty minute promo all week for the nighttime show.  Our NBC station dropped the daytime "Wheel" in 1988 as the nighttime show was running on the ABC affil at 7:30.  The ABC affil picked up the NBC feed for a while, but the hassle of excising the promos and occassional dead air during news bulletins and the like made it more bother than it was worth.  If I were an affil, I'd want some exclusivity.

[uncamark]

And of course, the awful truth is that if "Today" lost its third hour, either News would want to still control the hour or, more likely, the stations would want the hour back to air more lucrative syndicated programming or some sort of a local show with the early morning news anchors.  Network daytime programming is becoming less and less of a necessary thing for most network affiliates these days.

You're more likely to get a strip game show renaissance from syndication than network--too bad it won't happen this year.

[tvwxman]

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You're more likely to get a strip game show renaissance from syndication than network--too bad it won't happen this year.

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And THAT"S why i think smaller programming companies are going about it wrong....

In the mid 80s , a syndie company put out a 2 hour block of talk shows that aired, in order, in each market.....the memories are vague, but one of them involved Fred Willard.....

Before that, Woody Fraser fronted a 2 hour block of 4  talk shows that gave America it's first taste of Richard Simmons....

My idea...get a company to put together a 2 hour time period of game shows... aimed to air from 10am - Noon in markets...your smaller, higher on the dial stations (you know, the ones that program nothing but 7 hours of talk shows daily?) would eat this up...give em some local ad time and they're happy...

The ratings would NOT be high, but the programming would be inexpensive enough to turn a profit. And they'd be getting original programming 52 weeks a year....And with a programming company in charge of the 2 hour time slot, they could re-program stuff that wasn't working every 13 weeks....ensuring fresh product that didn't die over the course of the entire year.

Dreaming? A little, but it could happen....More likely than wishing NBC would give an hour of the Today show back to program with games!

[Jimmy Owen]

INDAY was what you're thinking of.  A half hour of INN News, "What's Hot, What's Not" with Melanie Chartoff and Fred W. "All About Us" with Ron Hendren and "It's a Great Life" with Robert Stack.  The Richard Simmons show was supposed to be part of a Golden West-syndicated block and I think Dr. Toni Grant was to have had a show in the block, but eventually the Richard Simmons show was the only success.

[sshuffield70]

[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 23 2004, 02:53 PM\']You're more likely to get a strip game show renaissance from syndication than network--too bad it won't happen this year.

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Not after the Janet Jackson fiasco!  

(Oh wait a minute.....he didn't mean THAT strip game show!)

In all seriousness, I like Matt's idea.  I think some of the production companies currently working could pull it off.  Whether they would or not is another question.

[The Ol' Guy]

and if I remember correctly, Dan Enright helped put together the All About Us show - I'm sure somewhere down the line he might have been hoping if Inday had been more successful, he could work in a game show somewhere in the block.

[chris319]

My idea...get a company to put together a 2 hour time period of game shows... aimed to air from 10am - Noon in markets...your smaller, higher on the dial stations (you know, the ones that program nothing but 7 hours of talk shows daily?) would eat this up...give em some local ad time and they're happy...

The ratings would NOT be high, but the programming would be inexpensive enough to turn a profit. And they'd be getting original programming 52 weeks a year....And with a programming company in charge of the 2 hour time slot, they could re-program stuff that wasn't working every 13 weeks....ensuring fresh product that didn't die over the course of the entire year.

Good ol' barter syndication is more attractive in daytime now that network compensation is a thing of the past.

Not that long ago Eisner was talking about reverse compensation: stations would pay the networks for programming. That would be the death knell of network TV.

[Jimmy Owen]

[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Dec 23 2004, 05:22 PM\']and if I remember correctly, Dan Enright helped put together the All About Us show - I'm sure somewhere down the line he might have been hoping if Inday had been more successful, he could work in a game show somewhere in the block.

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They did have a one-time-only 90-min special knockoff of "Battle of the Net. Stars" with soap actors that was hosted by Fred Willard.  Another show they tried was a week-long pilot based on the "Hollywood Reporter" trade mag that was hosted by Peter Tomarken.

[NickS]

tvwxman:  I've groaned over the whole 3rd hour of Today even when "Later Today" started.  I mean, there goes at least what -- 17-20 units down to 10 at most?

*If* Barker calls it quits after next season like Der Perfesser is hunching, I'd make the play for that.  Otherwise, I'd go for a $OTC and Newlywed Game mix -- or why hasn't anyone gone overseas for a daily strip?  Might as well.