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Craig Karlberg

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« Reply #75 on: December 31, 2004, 05:21:55 AM »
Here's why I think Ken is automatically byed to the finals.  If he was placed in a 1st round group, he'd probably beat them hands down, unless there'a either Rutter or Seymour or Forrester or Spangleburg among them, that may be diffrent.  I guess there's always a gimmick to make viewers think that this tournament is just about Ken.  Actually, it's more than that.  MUCH MORE!

Don Howard

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« Reply #76 on: December 31, 2004, 11:28:32 AM »
Wouldn't it be funny if Ken got knocked out in the first round? That would be a side-splitter. That could be why he's allowed to advance directly to the final series of games. Otherwise, they'd potentially be stuck with another 14 or 15 weeks of a tournament with the star attraction never to appear again.
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« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2004, 12:36:53 PM »
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 12:28 PM\']Wouldn't it be funny if Ken got knocked out in the first round? That would be a side-splitter. That could be why he's allowed to advance directly to the final series of games. Otherwise, they'd potentially be stuck with another 14 or 15 weeks of a tournament with the star attraction never to appear again.[/quote]
My opinion is that's precisely why they're doing it this way.  It really has nothing to do with what is or is not "fair".  Ken is the draw, and having hin at the end guarantees a huge turnout for the final games.

Hey, as I said over at the Sony board, the great part of this for the 150 or so who've been invited is that they get to play the game again.  For many of them, that's incentive enough.  Some of us would kill to get another chance, if you know what I'm saying.
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« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2004, 12:45:46 PM »
The whole idea is Ken being the ultimate goal for the rest to aspire to.

I could almost envision a revised set with Ken sitting in a catbird's seat watching every match. (Like one game show where the champion watched the challengers from a catbird's seat -- can't remember it -- think it was late 70's/early 80's).

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« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2004, 12:48:37 PM »
And Matt, that idea of people wanting another shot does not extend to just champs.  I'd have to think you might've won at least five if you weren't playing the game show equivalent of God.

(Small exaggeration there, for the hyperbole-impaired.)

One question I have:  Eddie Timanus.  Is he ineligible because of his Nov. 2004 Millionaire appearance?

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« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2004, 02:14:56 PM »
[quote name=\'starcade\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 12:45 PM\']The whole idea is Ken being the ultimate goal for the rest to aspire to.

I could almost envision a revised set with Ken sitting in a catbird's seat watching every match. (Like one game show where the champion watched the challengers from a catbird's seat -- can't remember it -- think it was late 70's/early 80's).
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I think you might be refering to the Narz "Now You See It".

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Matt Ottinger

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« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2004, 04:00:39 PM »
[quote name=\'starcade\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 01:48 PM\']And Matt, that idea of people wanting another shot does not extend to just champs.  I'd have to think you might've won at least five if you weren't playing the game show equivalent of God.

One question I have:  Eddie Timanus.  Is he ineligible because of his Nov. 2004 Millionaire appearance?[/quote]
Thanks for thinking of me, starcade, but I'm smart enough to realize that this super-champs idea is much better for the show than a loser's reunion.

As for Eddie (or anybody else for that matter), I'm sure Jeopardy is going to have the same disclaimers that they had for the M$M tournament, basically saying that this is an invitational, the old rules don't matter and we can invite whomever we please.  After Ken, Eddie is probably the most famous contestant Jeopardy has.  They'd be crazy not to include him in this.
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« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2004, 06:26:32 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 01:00 PM\']After Ken, Eddie is probably the most famous contestant Jeopardy has.  They'd be crazy not to include him in this.
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I'm not sure if this was starcade's question (if not, it's mine): I believe Millionaire's contract prohibits contestants from appearing on another game show for a year after the date of the qualifying phone call, which would probably have been in September for Eddie. Would he have to return his $50K from Millionaire to appear?

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« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2004, 08:24:34 PM »
[quote name=\'gameshowsteve\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 04:26 PM\']I'm not sure if this was starcade's question (if not, it's mine): I believe Millionaire's contract prohibits contestants from appearing on another game show for a year after the date of the qualifying phone call, which would probably have been in September for Eddie. Would he have to return his $50K from Millionaire to appear?
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In terms of legalities, I do not know, but for an event such as this, I should think that the Millionaire people would be insane to try to invoke such a clause, just because of the PR. Imagine the headline: "MILLIONAIRE DENIES BLIND JEOPARDY CHAMPION HIS WINNINGS". Not good.
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« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2004, 09:15:57 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 08:24 PM\']In terms of legalities, I do not know, but for an event such as this, I should think that the Millionaire people would be insane to try to invoke such a clause, just because of the PR. Imagine the headline: "MILLIONAIRE DENIES BLIND JEOPARDY CHAMPION HIS WINNINGS". Not good.[/quote]

Have there been any Millionaire contestants who forfeited their winnings in such a manner in the past? I can see one of them on the phone with a lawyer trying to get their money if Eddie played the tournament without losing his winnings.
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Craig Karlberg

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« Reply #85 on: January 01, 2005, 04:26:40 AM »
Not sure if that ever happened, but if that happened to Eddie, I'd be up in arms over this since he's blind & I can somewhat relate to his handicapp.

Let's go the oppisite way on this:  Didn't I see somewhere where a J! contestant may have forfeited his $2K consolation prize because he won big money on Millionaire a few months earlier?

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« Reply #86 on: January 01, 2005, 09:15:36 PM »
I got it!!! They'll do this. Four players will play the first half of the Jeopardy! round. The lowest scorer is eliminated before the opening set of commercials.
Three players remain. The lowest scorer of those is eliminated when the first Jeopardy! round concludes.
Two players remain. The higher scorer after Double Jeopardy! goes on to face the Super Jeopardy! bonus board.
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« Reply #87 on: January 02, 2005, 12:45:58 AM »
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jan 1 2005, 09:15 PM\']I got it!!! They'll do this. Four players will play the first half of the Jeopardy! round. The lowest scorer is eliminated before the opening set of commercials.
Three players remain. The lowest scorer of those is eliminated when the first Jeopardy! round concludes.
Two players remain. The higher scorer after Double Jeopardy! goes on to face the Super Jeopardy! bonus board.[/quote]

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« Reply #88 on: January 02, 2005, 02:28:30 AM »
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 01:46 PM\']That won't stop some big-mouth from blabbing. This isn't like the "Who Shot J.R.?" mystery on Dallas where you can simply shoot multiple endings. As we learned from Ken's defeat to Ms. Zerg, someone will not be able to keep his or her lip zipped.
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Maybe they could do a Survivor-like ending. Tape everything up until Final Jeopardy, but then keep the results of FJ secret until revealing them weeks later, on a live show. Followed by a reunion, of course. :)

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« Reply #89 on: January 02, 2005, 10:16:40 AM »
[quote name=\'Lemonjello\' date=\'Jan 2 2005, 02:28 AM\']Maybe they could do a Survivor-like ending. Tape everything up until Final Jeopardy, but then keep the results of FJ secret until revealing them weeks later, on a live show. Followed by a reunion, of course. :)
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Bryant Gumbel could host.