Author Topic: 'Match Game', 'Password' (Read 8472 times)

The Pyramids · « **on:** February 21, 2005, 09:55:57 AM »

How much of the Goodson/Todman daytime shows of the Sixties - 'The Match Game,' 'Password' 'Snap Judegemeny' et al - were done live in the afternoon five days a week, if any?

Chief-O · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:09:17 AM »

I believe MG was the only one. Don't think Password was ever live.

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:38:32 AM »

I'm sure at one time it was stated that "Password" would tape two shows in a day, that's one reason why on a few of the '66-67 CBS eps that GSN has aired, there's a different celebrity for the Thursday and Friday shows than there was for the rest of the week.

I believe the first show to tape five in a day was the syndicated "What's My Line".

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:47:49 PM »

These G-T shows aired in the morning, for the most part, but TPIR, "Say When" and "Play Your Hunch," were live at least some of the time, as verified through old TV Guide listings.

uncamark · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:04:33 PM »

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Feb 21 2005, 11:38 AM\']I'm sure at one time it was stated that "Password" would tape two shows in a day, that's one reason why on a few of the '66-67 CBS eps that GSN has aired, there's a different celebrity for the Thursday and Friday shows than there was for the rest of the week.

I believe the first show to tape five in a day was the syndicated "What's My Line".

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The first G-T show--other producers had been doing it (something tells me, for one, that Bob Stewart was probably doing it with "Eye Guess"), but syndie "WML?" was G-T's first attempt at it.

ChuckNet · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2005, 08:22:36 PM »

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Don't think Password was ever live.

The announcer's closing disclaimer began "The contestants on this pre-recorded program..." on every ep that's aired on GSN, to the best of my knowledge.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")

johnnya2k3 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:53:12 AM »

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Don't think Password was ever live.

The announcer's closing disclaimer began "The contestants on this pre-recorded program..." on every ep that's aired on GSN, to the best of my knowledge.
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And on some episodes, it was "The contestants on this pre-recorded AND EDITED program...", considering that until the late '60s (when electronic editing systems were introduced) editing videotape was VERY time-consuming.

I'm pretty certain the syndicated WML/TTTT and ABC's "Password" were among the first G-T shows to be electronically edited; the latter of course being their first Los Angeles-based show.

Jonathan Allen

Ian Wallis · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2005, 08:47:54 AM »

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The announcer's closing disclaimer began "The contestants on this pre-recorded program..." on every ep that's aired on GSN, to the best of my knowledge.

Was it a rule back then that if a program was pre-recorded they'd have to state that it was, or was it just something GT decided to do? Several of their other games from that time have the announcer saying "this program was pre-recorded" right before the fade to black.

Jimmy Owen · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2005, 09:44:26 AM »

Going "off the board," somewhat, I don't know how widespread this was but up until around the late 70's, our local station used to mention everyday, "Some of the programs seen today on TV5 are delayed broadcasts by means of transcription, video tape or film." There was great care taken to let people know the shows were not live.

SRIV94 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2005, 12:22:25 PM »

[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 07:47 AM\']Was it a rule back then that if a program was pre-recorded they'd have to state that it was, or was it just something GT decided to do? Several of their other games from that time have the announcer saying "this program was pre-recorded" right before the fade to black.

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I can't speak for whether there was a rule, but a number of programs (not just from GT) made that designation. I seem to recall HSq doing the same thing during the 1968 prime-time run and also in the early syndie years.

On the other hand, perhaps there was--for the first year or so of GONG, if an act was performing some sort of lip-sync Barris made the point of stating that "they were singing to a record" (once, he expanded that to, "and if you couldn't tell that those weren't their real voices, you're really weird").

Doug

uncamark · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:20:21 PM »

FCC regulations used to clearly state that any program that was not a live broadcast had to be clearly stated as such.

In recent years, with taped programming become predeominate, it's been reinterpreted to mean that anything that presents itself as a "live" show but isn't has to be identified that way--like "SNL" reruns on Saturday nights at 11:30 on NBC or any repeats or repurposes of live programs. In other words, if you have an announcer shouting "live!" and it isn't, you better have a "pre-recorded" graphic up somewhere anytime around that announcer shouting "live!"

At CBS, the "pre-" was dropped from "recorded" sometime in the 60s at the request of Bill Paley, who thought "pre-recorded" was redundant. He also required that news shows could only call themselves "broadcasts," not "programs" or "shows" (something "60 Minutes" continues to this day) and, less successfully, he wanted shows that used canned laughter to run disclaimers ("audience response technically augmented" disclaimers had a very short run on the CBS air after the quiz scandals, when Paley wanted to clear up everything).

Steve McClellan · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:51:54 PM »

[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 01:20 PM\']FCC regulations used to clearly state that any program that was not a live broadcast had to be clearly stated as such.

In recent years, with taped programming become predeominate, it's been reinterpreted to mean that anything that presents itself as a "live" show but isn't has to be identified that way--like "SNL" reruns on Saturday nights at 11:30 on NBC[/quote]
Or first-run "SNL"s at 11:30 Pacific.

ObGameShow: It featured celebrities. They were playing Jeopardy!. Its name was Celebrity Jeopardy!. Will someone please write What is Celebrity Jeopardy!?

clemon79 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2005, 05:39:57 PM »

[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 02:51 PM\']ObGameShow: It featured celebrities. They were playing Jeopardy!. Its name was Celebrity Jeopardy!. Will someone please write What is Celebrity Jeopardy!?

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mystery7 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2005, 05:58:37 PM »

[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 04:20 PM\']At CBS, the "pre-" was dropped from "recorded" sometime in the 60s at the request of Bill Paley, who thought "pre-recorded" was redundant. He also required that news shows could only call themselves "broadcasts," not "programs" or "shows" (something "60 Minutes" continues to this day) and, less successfully, he wanted shows that used canned laughter to run disclaimers ("audience response technically augmented" disclaimers had a very short run on the CBS air after the quiz scandals, when Paley wanted to clear up everything).

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I wondered why WML ended with "This program was recorded". Sounds a bit odd in this day and age where virtually every program is recorded. If I remember, WML used that line well after taping moved from CBS to NBC.

Paley must've been interesting to work for. He didn't even want reruns to be called reruns. He preferred "Encore programs by public demand."

BrandonFG · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2005, 06:17:57 PM »

[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 22 2005, 04:20 PM\']FCC regulations used to clearly state that any program that was not a live broadcast had to be clearly stated as such.

In recent years, with taped programming become predeominate, it's been reinterpreted to mean that anything that presents itself as a "live" show but isn't has to be identified that way--like "SNL" reruns on Saturday nights at 11:30 on NBC or any repeats or repurposes of live programs. In other words, if you have an announcer shouting "live!" and it isn't, you better have a "pre-recorded" graphic up somewhere anytime around that announcer shouting "live!"

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I notice that Jimmy Kimmel Live has that graphic on all its shows now, making me wonder will they even continue to call it "Live" for long. Now if a show is "live on tape," where they tape say, an hour-long show in exactly one hour, but air it later on, do they still have to do a disclaimer? Shows like "TRL" or "Live with Regis and Kelly"?