Network Graphics, Scrolls, and Distractions

[Mario500]

When I'm speaking about the FCC, it involves those TV ratings that appear briefly during a program (sometimes for an entire show, United Paramount Network's "Smackdown" is the best example). The old "Coming Up" graphics before Game Show Network became "GSN" were less of a distraction and not animated.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 02:26 PM\']I'm trying to start a discussion on the issue of screen graphics that ruin our viewing experience, plus it's a VHS archivist's worst nightmare.
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And you'll receive no sympathy here either. GSN does not exist to fill your personal tape collection. GSN exists for one reason and one reason only, to get you to watch whatever they are showing long enough so you stick around and watch some of the advertisements they run during commercial breaks. Apparently they feel that the bugs and ads and whatnot they flash on the screen during shows (which certainly don't affect MY enjoyment of the shows) are helping them to that end, even if it's pissing off the same twelve whiny diehards.

(In other words, and I've said this before, you people bitching and moaning about these bugs, credit squeezes, and the other things you feel are befouling your precious recordings, do not amount to a pimple on the ass of the GSN viewership at large.)

Folks, we must not let this topic be all about my previous "crusade" or my style of writing,

Then you must write in something approaching English. This long, drawn out crap doesn't make you look intelligent, it makes you look like an uninformed blowhard.

[Mario500]

According to my readings, "You Bet Your Life" is one of the few game shows available in the DVD format and it remains unlikely that "Match Game", "The Hollywood Squares", or "Press Your Luck" will be on disc in the distant future.

Game Show Network's classic programming is unique from any other network, broadcast & cable. In all my years of taping programs from the past and present, many of them haven't aired on television in years, and you cannot expect "GSN" to continue airing everything you see right now in another 10 years, so the constant graphics is not helping viewers and/or archivists until that time comes. Video cassette recorders exist not only to tape programs when you're not around, but to keep certain programs (live events, specials, rare TV series, or your favorite programs in general) "alive" long after they're no longer available on TV.

There may be DVDs of numerous TV programs now, but don't expect most consumers to pay over $50 for series with multiple seasons when they can easily be taped on a blank VHS tape under $5.00. I may be in the hole, but I'm willing to continue defending my stance on TV network graphics and game shows.

[Jimmy Owen]

Rather than show credits on the air, why not cut them out of the show and run full-screen promos?  The production personnel could be listed on the GSN website on each show's page for those who would like to see them.

[dzinkin]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 06:23 PM\']Video cassette recorders exist not only to tape programs when you're not around, but to keep certain programs (live events, specials, rare TV series, or your favorite programs in general) "alive" long after they're no longer available on TV.

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It is indeed the role of a VCR to let you watch shows at times other than those when they actually air.

It is NOT the role of GSN to help you use your VCR to fill tapes.

See the difference?

There may be DVDs of numerous TV programs now, but don't expect most consumers to pay over $50 for series with multiple seasons when they can easily be taped on a blank VHS tape under $5.00. I may be in the hole, but I'm willing to continue defending my stance on TV network graphics and game shows.

If anyone from GSN is reading this, let me suggest the following: please make a DVD set of Password Plus available.  Pay Fremantle whatever you have to pay in order to make it happen.  Then, charge an absurdly astronomical amount for it.  All you'll need to do is sell one set to Mario500 -- whose obsession with the graphics makes him the perfect mark, er, I mean customer -- and you'll have more money than you could ever make from airing commercials alongside the end credits.

Heck, if you can sell sets to the other eleven people who care deeply about this, you might never have to show another commercial again. :-)

[Mario500]

I wish I had stated previously that I'm aware that TV networks don't exist for us to tape most of their programming for the home VHS archives. They exist to serve the "public interest" (not my words) and currently networks like "GSN" are not serving the silent majority who want their programming without on screen distractions whether they are simply watching or taping a show. Network voice overs during a programs credits have existed long before the graphic madness, but squeezing a show's (especially a classic show) credits just to promote other programs has gone way over the viewers' minds. Now we have large promotions during the program (with "over the top" animation), forcing viewers into a corner where there is no way out.

I'm glad I'm not currently taping "Super Password" or either version of "Family Feud" right now or else many years from now relatives will be saying "What's with the casino girl?" and "We didn't have that when the Feud aired on ABC and CBS". Unfortunately since I've been taping "SCTV" on TV Land for the last few weeks, they'll be asking "What the heck is Chasing Farrah?".

As the years go by, the new TV generation gap will be clear as crystal, just pop in a VHS recording from the 20th century and compare it to television in the 21st.

[aaron sica]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 06:54 PM\']I'm glad I'm not currently taping "Super Password" or either version of "Family Feud" right now or else many years from now relatives will be saying "What's with the casino girl?" and "We didn't have that when the Feud aired on ABC and CBS".

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Many years from now, your average person will have no idea what network the Feud originally aired on.

[FeudDude]

[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 05:58 PM\'][quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 06:54 PM\']I'm glad I'm not currently taping "Super Password" or either version of "Family Feud" right now or else many years from now relatives will be saying "What's with the casino girl?" and "We didn't have that when the Feud aired on ABC and CBS".

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Many years from now, your average person will have no idea what network the Feud aired on.

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I don't even think "your average person" knows that now.  Heck, I grew up with Combs Feud, but I didn't even know there was a CBS daytime version until I started reading game show boards and newsgroups.

[Jimmy Owen]

[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 05:58 PM\'][quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 06:54 PM\']I'm glad I'm not currently taping "Super Password" or either version of "Family Feud" right now or else many years from now relatives will be saying "What's with the casino girl?" and "We didn't have that when the Feud aired on ABC and CBS".

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Many years from now, your average person will have no idea what network the Feud aired on.

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PAX, I think.  Also, the casino girl's name is Casino Night.

[melman1]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 02:26 PM\']I'm trying to start a discussion on the issue of screen graphics that ruin our viewing experience, plus it's a VHS archivist's worst nightmare. [/quote]

we must strengthen issue of distracting TV graphics that both television and the Federal Communications Commission are currently forcing upon the public.

In all my years of taping programs from the past and present, many of them haven't aired on television in years, and I you can't expect "GSN" to continue airing everything you see right now in another 10 years, so the constant graphics is not helping viewers and/or archivists until that time comes. Video cassette recorders exist not only to tape programs when you're not around, but to keep certain programs (live events, specials, rare TV series, or your favorite programs in general) "alive" long after they're no longer available on TV.

currently networks like "GSN" are not serving the silent majority who want their programming without on screen distractions whether they are simply watching or taping a show.

It's funny - you seem to have a grasp of the "words" in the English language.  But you assemble them in ways that make practically no sense at all.  (Irismason, please pick up the white courtesy phone.)

There are many things in life to be passionate about.  This ain't one of them.

[Mario500]

Fellow posters, I assure y’all that there is indeed a silent population of Game Show Network viewers of unknown proportions who agree that the on screen graphics by the network are beyond necessary. Most of the people I’m speaking for probably don’t have a large enough platform to speak out, for example access to the World Wide Web via a computer. My writings on “GSN” and TV today may seem unusual, but that’s the point that stands out more. If the issue of graphics that interrupt and distract viewers and ruin the recordings of those attempting to archive their favorites were ever greater, we wouldn’t have these many misunderstandings (aside from my writing style, which I always check before and sometimes after the posting).

I encourage any voices of the silent majority of Game Show Network viewers to speak louder, or else they continue to empower the trend of flashy promotional graphics and tickers that continues to infect television today. If all goes well, maybe the FCC could finally learn a thing or too from a public that is not one-sided. Yep, the TV ratings and "permanent" E/I logo were in mind again.

[Jimmy Owen]

The E/I thing helps kids figure out which shows not to watch.

[urbanpreppie05]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 09:33 PM\']Fellow posters, I assure y’all that there is indeed a silent population of Game Show Network viewers of unknown proportions who agree that the on screen graphics by the network are beyond necessary. Most of the people I’m speaking for probably don’t have a large enough platform to speak out, for example access to the World Wide Web via a computer. My writings on “GSN” and TV today may seem unusual, but that’s the point that stands out more. If the issue of graphics that interrupt and distract viewers and ruin the recordings of those attempting to archive their favorites were ever greater, we wouldn’t have these many misunderstandings (aside from my writing style, which I always check before and sometimes after the posting).

I encourage any voices of the silent majority of Game Show Network viewers to speak louder, or else they continue to empower the trend of flashy promotional graphics and tickers that continues to infect television today. If all goes well, maybe the FCC could finally learn a thing or too from a public that is not one-sided. Yep, the TV ratings and "permanent" E/I logo were in mind again.

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Silent? SILENT? Go check out the GSn boards. There more people that have nothing better to do with their time over there. People here don't really care. There are MORE important issues to protest...High college tuition...gas prices, weather...ANYTHING but game shows.

In other words- get a life.

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 09:33 PM\']Fellow posters, I assure y’all that there is indeed a silent population of Game Show Network viewers of unknown proportions who agree that the on screen graphics by the network are beyond necessary. Most of the people I’m speaking for probably don’t have a large enough platform to speak out, for example access to the World Wide Web via a computer. My writings on “GSN” and TV today may seem unusual, but that’s the point that stands out more. If the issue of graphics that interrupt and distract viewers and ruin the recordings of those attempting to archive their favorites were ever greater, we wouldn’t have these many misunderstandings (aside from my writing style, which I always check before and sometimes after the posting).

I encourage any voices of the silent majority of Game Show Network viewers to speak louder, or else they continue to empower the trend of flashy promotional graphics and tickers that continues to infect television today. If all goes well, maybe the FCC could finally learn a thing or too from a public that is not one-sided. Yep, the TV ratings and "permanent" E/I logo were in mind again.

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Dude. Let it go. I'm begging you. There's lots of wonderful things outside. Fresh air. Females. The kind that's not inflatable. Except the ones with silicon.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Mario500\' date=\'Apr 9 2005, 07:33 PM\']Fellow posters, I assure y’all that there is indeed a silent population of Game Show Network viewers of unknown proportions
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So we've gone from "a silent majority" to "unknown proportions". Which means you have NO damn idea how many they are, and that suggesting you speak for "the majority" is a steaming crock of crap.

Most of the people I’m speaking for probably don’t have a large enough platform to speak out, for example access to the World Wide Web via a computer.

If you don't even know how many there are, how can you claim to make any demographic assumptions about them?

My writings on “GSN” and TV today may seem unusual,

...because you're a crackpot...

(aside from my writing style, which I always check before and sometimes after the posting).

Keep checking. Better yet, stop writing.

I encourage any voices of the silent majority of Game Show Network viewers

Here's your "silent majority" again. I'd like some proof, please. But you can't provide it, because you've already admitted you have no idea how large this group is.

I have two pieces of advice for you: 1) quit while you're behind, and 2) seek psychiatric help.