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Dbacksfan12

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« on: April 16, 2005, 04:17:31 AM »
Playing Password with some internet aquatinces (bad misspell), I came to wonder: Does anyone have a concise knowledge of what words were allowed on P+ and SP?

I know that SP disallowed foreign words, but allowed opposites.
Can someone else provide a more concise list? [Feel free to use the other Passwords, if need be].
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2005, 05:48:25 AM »
BTW <voice of Speak N Spell> The correct spelling is A-C-Q-U-A-I-N-T-A-N-C-E

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On Password Plus in the early part of the run, they were more lenient. For example "Firewoman" was acceptable for "Fireman". Also, forms of the password were considered correct, the player did not have to give the correct form. I believe the "no opposites" rule was implemented because too many celebs and players were relying on opposites to convey passwords. At the beginning of the run, each side got 3 clues each, later it was 2 clues each. Also, the team that DIDN'T guess the password got the first clue of the next password. (As was the case for the previous Passwords) Fortunately they realized that gave that team an unfair advantage guessing the puzzle and changed the rule.

Super Password, for the first show only, had a rule that if a player couldn't come up with a clue for a password in time, the other side got two clues. This was quickly scrapped because it was just too confusing. Super Password also nixed the "play or pass" option.

On all versions, the password had to be an actual word, or a well recognized slang word. (For some reason, Betty White's clue for kiss, "mmmmwah", was allowed, even though it's not a word) Pantomime is never allowed, but you can use your face to some extent. You can smile to convey "happy", but you can't move your eyebrows to convey "eyebrows" (as Bowzer did on one show) or wink to convey "wink".

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2005, 07:01:33 PM »
[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 04:48 AM\']Super Password, for the first show only, had a rule that if a player couldn't come up with a clue for a password in time, the other side got two clues. This was quickly scrapped because it was just too confusing. Super Password also nixed the "play or pass" option.
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Which reminds me of my post on the other thread on the GSN board...why DID they delete the P/P option when SP came around?  When Family Feud returned, it was understandable that they'd lose the option since passing families were on "I'll put it on account" levels of rarity.  But seeing PW+ again, P/P was a very important strategic move.  

Maybe, since SP was allowing clues once illegal on PW+ and such, they took away pass/play to try and compensate for some lost challenge?  Meaning, if a tough word comes up, you're stuck with it, like it or not.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2005, 08:20:40 PM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 03:17 AM\']Playing Password with some internet aquatinces (bad misspell), I came to wonder: Does anyone have a concise knowledge of what words were allowed on P+ and SP?
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Yesterday we saw a contestant give the clue "seaside" for the password "seashore", and I was sure that clue would get dit-dit-dit-dit'd, but it wasn't.  Of course, when it came back to her, her next clue was waaaay too close to the password--"seashore".  "Seaside" definitely won't work on any version of Pyramid, that's for sure.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2005, 11:34:06 PM »
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 07:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 03:17 AM\']Playing Password with some internet aquatinces (bad misspell), I came to wonder: Does anyone have a concise knowledge of what words were allowed on P+ and SP?
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Yesterday we saw a contestant give the clue "seaside" for the password "seashore", and I was sure that clue would get dit-dit-dit-dit'd, but it wasn't.  Of course, when it came back to her, her next clue was waaaay too close to the password--"seashore".  "Seaside" definitely won't work on any version of Pyramid, that's for sure.

BTW, can you solve this Password Puzzle? :-)

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 01:22:01 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 06:45:23 AM »
The other day CNR gave the clue "jacket" for straightjacket.

I'm suprised that didn't get buzzed.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 01:42:12 PM »
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 05:45 AM\']The other day CNR gave the clue "jacket" for straightjacket.

I'm suprised that didn't get buzzed.
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...and if the clue didn't give the word to his partner, his immediate cringing at expecting to have it ruled illegal did, IMO. I don't think there was any easy way to get that otherwive, given the first three clues.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 04:02:30 PM »
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Maybe, since SP was allowing clues once illegal on PW+ and such, they took away pass/play to try and compensate for some lost challenge? Meaning, if a tough word comes up, you're stuck with it, like it or not.


I always wondered about that too, but if you have a good team playing against you they could theoretically sweep the puzzle, never giving you a chance.  Maybe taking away the play/pass was an equalizer - as Bert said on many occasions "a bouncer".
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2005, 06:17:04 PM »
Ludden always explained how getting the option was supposed to be an advantage. The team not getting the previous puzzle always started with the option (I think), so it's not as if one team could sweep a whole game.

I was floored when "Miss America" was the password--not a clue, the password itself. Dr. Reason A. Goodwin may still be rolling over in his grave.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2005, 09:38:42 PM »
[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 03:17 PM\']I was floored when "Miss America" was the password--not a clue, the password itself. Dr. Reason A. Goodwin may still be rolling over in his grave.
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And t'other day, during the "Blockbusters" puzzle, we had "NBC" come up as a Password, which is of course no more a single word than "Miss America" is. :)
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 10:16:56 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 08:38 PM\']And t'other day, during the "Blockbusters" puzzle, we had "NBC" come up as a Password, which is of course no more a single word than "Miss America" is. :)
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Not like it hadn't happened before.  The (then) three major nets' initials were frequently used as passwords (as were two-word place names like "New York" and "Los Angeles").  Ludden usually justified it by saying, "clues can't be more than one word, but passwords can."

Of course, NBC executives probably cringed every time "ABC" or "CBS" was used.  Any time someone appeared on NBC, if they were doing a non-NBC project invariably they'd be forced to say "on another network" (just in case someone else reading this didn't know that ;-) ).

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2005, 10:23:01 PM »
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 09:16 PM\']Of course, NBC executives probably cringed every time "ABC" or "CBS" was used.  Any time someone appeared on NBC, if they were doing a non-NBC project invariably they'd be forced to say "on another network" (just in case someone else reading this didn't know that ;-) ).
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GENE: Richard has a new show, Family Feud, but unfortunately, we can't mention what network it's on.

RICHARD: Oh, that's OK...what are the first three letters of the alphabet?

GENE: A-B-C.

RICHARD: That's the network it's on.

Yeah, I know PM was syndicated, but it was still a good bit. :-)
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2005, 11:11:56 PM »
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 09:16 PM\']
Not like it hadn't happened before.  The (then) three major nets' initials were frequently used as passwords (as were two-word place names like "New York" and "Los Angeles").  Ludden usually justified it by saying, "clues can't be more than one word, but passwords can."

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Well, with lousy justifications like that, no wonder nobody liked Ludden around the set.

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 12:07:06 AM »
[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 10:11 PM\']Well, with lousy justifications like that, no wonder nobody liked Ludden around the set.
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I would venture to say that it wasn't his decision (although I can't say that for sure).  I'm pretty sure Kennedy (after taking over) and Convy (on SP) said the same thing if and when a password had more than one word and someone got confused ("I thought everything had to be one word!").

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