GSN's May ratings - yikes!

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Jun 21 2005, 10:03 AM\']As for the Saturday night block, give it up. The thing bombed. Forget it.
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And I bet you were jumping with glee when it happened.  Honestly, even if it even pulled a 0.2; it might be worth the savings of acquiring a different series.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Jun 21 2005, 11:34 AM\']And I bet you were jumping with glee when it happened. 
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Come on, Mark, this is an idiotic assumption. Nobody here of reasonable mind wants to see GSN fail.

[xibit777]

That's why GSN is replacing saturday night classics with a show that pulls in a 0.6 and then the top rated Family Feud (soon to be Amazing Race)....

Don't you realize these 2 shows probably could have replaced ANY show on the schedule to do higher ratings.   Saturday Night Classics could have gotten a 0.4, but they knew they would do better with Super Millionaire and their highest rated classic.   That doesn't mean it bombed.   It just means they came up with shows that would do better.   Plus they got rid of that beast that probably dragged down the ratings (Games Across America)    The older crowd is more likely to watch prime time Saturdays so that could be why they put in these 2 shows here.

Until you see numbers, you can't say anything bombed.   You can't really go by scheduling moves either because you know how long Kenny vs. Spenny was on in primetime last year.  They even gave it many showings a night.   Everyone thought it was doing well.   Guess again....

[tyshaun1]

[quote name=\'CaseyAbell\' date=\'Jun 21 2005, 11:03 AM\']As for the Saturday night block, give it up. The thing bombed. Forget it.

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And you know this, how?

Plus I noticed how you completely ignored the drop in Poker Royale's ratings (it was previously reported to be getting a .6), and put the blame on Millionare & SNC.

I'm not saying that the Saturday classics block did well, but at the same time, you know about it as much as I do.

Tyshaun

[Dbacksfan12]

[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' date=\'Jun 21 2005, 04:20 PM\']And you know this, how?[/quote]
He doesn't.  It just helps him "win" his "argument".

Plus I noticed how you completely ignored the drop in Poker Royale's ratings (it was previously reported to be getting a .6), and put the blame on Millionare & SNC.

Of course he would.  Because he is a fan of the card series, so why would he dump on it?

[itiparanoid13]

What do you know; GSN puts an ad out for new episodes of Millionaire to the network.  That's really funny, and I swear I had no prior knowledge.  It just made me chuckle a bit since I wrote that yesterday.  At least they are doing something smart to further ratings.  

Just to contribute a tiny more to the main topic of the thread, while .4 may not be extremely good or great, most GSN shows get a .2 or .3.  The only shows that get above a .2 game show wise are RR, Lingo, FF, and the casino crap.  Extreme Dodgeball does when it's on the air, so I left that out.  .4 is above the usual average of GSN's shows, so if nothing else, there's that.

[CaseyAbell]

There's a technical term for a TV series that only lasts ten or eleven airings. It's called a "bomb."

Everybody around here (properly) wrote off the horseracing and computer-game shows as bombs when GSN hastily buried them. No reason to apply different standards to the Saturday night block, just because you liked the series but didn't like the horseracing or computer-game epics. I liked the Saturday night block myself, but I won't pretend it was a wild success (or any kind of success) when it disappeared after a couple months.

Right now GSN faces the same problem as it did in the third quarter of 2003, before Millionaire came to the network's rescue. GSN is stuck with deteriorating ratings because its prime time offerings are looking ragged and old. The attempted solution is oddly similar to what GSN did in 2003...a big bet on reruns of a broadcast network show. In 2003 it was Millionaire. In 2005 it's Amazing Race.

We'll have to wait and see if Amazing Race is anywhere near as effective as Millionaire in reviving GSN's prime time numbers.

Let's see, what else...oh, I like the network's blackjack and poker shows. But as I said at the start of this thread, I can't argue that they've been able to turn around GSN's declining Nielsens. When a network hits the skids as badly as GSN has since January, there's plenty of blame to go around to all parts of the schedule.

The network seems to be shoving blackjack out of prime time completely in July, and there are no announced plans for any future series. That doesn't indicate real swell numbers. (Somehow, I think I'll get more agreement on blackjack than on the Saturday night block.)

[Jimmy Owen]

All of the shows that were featured on the Saturday night series can still be seen in the daytime on GSN. So they can't really be called "bombs."  However, I'm of the opinion that primetime should be mostly original production.  

  You don't see ADD or the Video show repeating in the daytime, so I would agree that those were flops.  ADD was not done properly, I would have had more emphasis on the horse races rather than the interpersonal relationships, though that may have treaded on the TV Games Network's territory

What should GSN do?  TAR may work out short-term, but I would get a prime time block from 8-9 of new production utilizing some well-known shows (word games seem to
work best, so Lingo, Chain Reaction or Password would fit.  Maybe mount a new Eye Guess or Three on a Match; shows that work well but would seem new to young people.)  I'd put TAR at 9, Millionaire at 10 and casino at 11pm.