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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2005, 02:56:12 PM »
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:42 AM\']I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud and threw Dawson in the trash after just 9 years, yet he had someone like Barker working for him for the last 20 freaking years of his life.
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My guess would be that Barker wasn't an asshat for most of that. The vibe I get is that the extreme egoism didn't really start kicking in until the early- to mid-90's or so, and by the time it did, Goodson/Fremantle/Whoever couldn't afford to be rid of him, so they just deal with it.
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2005, 05:04:05 PM »
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I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud
Why would a packager cancel his own show?

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2005, 06:09:23 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 01:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:42 AM\']I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud and threw Dawson in the trash after just 9 years, yet he had someone like Barker working for him for the last 20 freaking years of his life.
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My guess would be that Barker wasn't an asshat for most of that. The vibe I get is that the extreme egoism didn't really start kicking in until the early- to mid-90's or so, and by the time it did, Goodson/Fremantle/Whoever couldn't afford to be rid of him, so they just deal with it.
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I have the feeling that the ego was always there, considering that I had heard that he politicked (with Barbara Hunter of CBS in his corner) to get the EP title after Frank Wayne's death.  It's just become more pronounced over time, especially as the show became his own private duchy.  It's hard to be a real asshat when Goodson's still in charge, Frank Wayne's your immediate boss and your show is just one of many others under the same roof at 6430 Sunset (and not even the top performer amongst them).  But when the shows drop off one-by-one, Goodson dies and the folks at the network and parent company become more solicitious...

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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2005, 06:48:36 PM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2005, 07:39:00 PM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 03:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
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*boggle*
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2005, 07:58:58 PM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 05:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
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And in 1985, that show was? Rhetorical, Zach, sit down.

And no, it wasn't Boggle. ;-)
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2005, 08:20:31 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:39 PM\']*boggle*
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2005, 08:52:33 PM »
For the record, Goodson did not axe Feud... low ratings did. A certain show with a spinning wheel hosted by a former weatherman knocked Feud out of the number 1 slot.

According to E! THS, Goodson did consider replacing Richard after the 1980 season. Richard was vacationing in Hawaii, and he threatened to stay in Hawaii unless he got a major raise, and control over whether to bring back families that lost unfairly. ABC, however, granted Richard what he wanted.

As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?

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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2005, 12:31:49 AM »
[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:52 PM\']As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?[/quote]I don't think so. That would be double jeopardy.

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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2005, 01:54:54 AM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 03:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?

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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2005, 02:20:42 AM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2005, 02:34:48 AM »
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I have the feeling that the ego was always there, considering that I had heard that he politicked (with Barbara Hunter of CBS in his corner) to get the EP title after Frank Wayne's death. It's just become more pronounced over time, especially as the show became his own private duchy. It's hard to be a real asshat when Goodson's still in charge, Frank Wayne's your immediate boss and your show is just one of many others under the same roof at 6430 Sunset (and not even the top performer amongst them). But when the shows drop off one-by-one, Goodson dies and the folks at the network and parent company become more solicitious...
I have written here that Barker used to be so uninvolved with the show that he didn't even attend game development meetings (I don't know if he was even invited). I find great irony in the fact that the producers of Match Game and others in the company who had nothing whatsoever to do with TPIR would attend and present games and Barker was nowhere around. Then, within the space of a little over a year, Frank missed the deadline for submitting an episode of the show to the TV Academy which cost Barker a shot at an Emmy, and Dorothy Jo passed away. From then on Barker started taking a more active interest in the production of the show, eventually succeeding in getting Marc Breslow thrown off. Then he started boinking Dian, a lawsuit ensued, and he got a bit part in Happy Gilmore. The next thing you know he has visibility as Letterman starts doing jokes about him nailing the models, and his ego becomes distended to the point where it shows up in satellite photos. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Barker was salivating at the prospect of becoming E.P. long before Frank (who had a heart condition) passed away.

If the allegations about Barker in various court documents are true, I don't know why he isn't sitting in jail right now for suborning perjury.

(Legal disclaimer: All of the above is my personal OPINION.)
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2005, 02:39:58 AM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:20 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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Oh, that explains it. (ROLLS EYES AND BOGGLES)

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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2005, 03:30:52 AM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 01:20 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't NBC cancel J!, but gave him a deal where he could create a new show for the network ("Wheel")?
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2005, 06:44:23 AM »
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:30 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 01:20 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't NBC cancel J!, but gave him a deal where he could create a new show for the network ("Wheel")?
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In those days you didn't need a deal to develop a show. They may have given him development money for Wheel but it was likely after they saw the concept.