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Kevin Prather

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« Reply #165 on: December 22, 2005, 02:50:11 PM »
If anything, it's a great thing.
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davidhammett

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« Reply #166 on: December 22, 2005, 03:05:37 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 02:43 PM\'][quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 02:51 PM\']I agree with that....I thought it was the bank again to sweeten the offer a little...and you would think they would do the Monty Hall Paradox at some point when it gets to the last two and there's a ND..(bank calls up and offers to swap cases)...[/quote]
That really wouldn't be nearly as comparable to the Monty Hall Problem as it would appear.  Remember, not even the producers actually know what's in the cases, only a third-party observer who has nothing to do with game play.  Also, the cases have been removed randomly, which is counter to the central conceit of the Monty Hall Problem.
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Thanks for acknowledging that, Matt... I was about to jump all over it.  :-)
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« Reply #167 on: December 22, 2005, 03:28:19 PM »
[quote name=\'Lemonjello\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 11:34 AM\']I thought for sure it was going to be a telemarketer calling.
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[quote name=\'davidhammett\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 12:05 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 02:43 PM\']That really wouldn't be nearly as comparable to the Monty Hall Problem as it would appear.
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Thanks for acknowledging that, Matt... I was about to jump all over it.  :-)
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I think he was simply alluding to the feature of the Monty Hall Paradox where the player has the option to switch out their case, not any probability ramifications that extend from that.
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« Reply #168 on: December 22, 2005, 04:02:03 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 03:28 PM\'][quote name=\'Lemonjello\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 11:34 AM\']I thought for sure it was going to be a telemarketer calling.
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[quote name=\'davidhammett\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 12:05 PM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 02:43 PM\']That really wouldn't be nearly as comparable to the Monty Hall Problem as it would appear.
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Thanks for acknowledging that, Matt... I was about to jump all over it.  :-)
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I think he was simply alluding to the feature of the Monty Hall Paradox where the player has the option to switch out their case, not any probability ramifications that extend from that.
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exactly....it would be different if you, say, would get a call from the "independent auditor" who knows what's in the cases, is on the banker's side,  and he offers to switch out....
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« Reply #169 on: December 22, 2005, 04:04:04 PM »
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 01:02 PM\']exactly....it would be different if you, say, would get a call from the "independent auditor" who knows what's in the cases, is on the banker's side,  and he offers to switch out....
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This concludes my attempt to defend this guy. Have at, gentlemen.
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« Reply #170 on: December 22, 2005, 04:22:10 PM »
Isn't the "third party" just good old NBC S&P?
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #171 on: December 22, 2005, 04:38:05 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 01:43 PM\']On the other hand, for a show justly criticized for its predictability, didn't we all do a "what the hell?" double-take when that phone rang a second time?[/quote]

On the third hand, for a show justly criticized for its editing, I thought it was more of the same for a few seconds.
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« Reply #172 on: December 22, 2005, 05:19:11 PM »
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 04:38 PM\']On the third hand, for a show justly criticized for its editing, I thought it was more of the same for a few seconds.
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"On the third hand ..." ?   You don't happen to live in Roswell, NM, do you?

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Kevin Prather

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« Reply #173 on: December 22, 2005, 05:35:18 PM »
[quote name=\'DrJWJustice\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 03:19 PM\']"On the third hand ..." ?   You don't happen to live in Roswell, NM, do you?

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« Reply #174 on: December 22, 2005, 11:25:24 PM »
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Dec 21 2005, 05:57 PM\']Maybe they could do a "Who is the Banker?" home game for thirteen weeks, with the winner correctly guessing Don Trump.
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Wouldn't work - the Banker's identity is known, and he is credited at the end of the show. Those of you with archived episodes can look it up. I don't remember his name.

The only name NBC wants you to remember these days, it seems, is EARL.
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« Reply #175 on: December 23, 2005, 12:39:18 AM »
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 01:22 PM\']Isn't the "third party" just good old NBC S&P?
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In the past we've discussed the dismantling of some of the networks' decade old traditions. It appears as though NBC S&P has been scaled down, at least in their on-set monitoring of D/ND. The network lawyers who were alive and well and roaming Studio 1 in Burbank as recently as NBC's prime time "Weakest Link", weren't as obvious at these tapings. While network S&P executives still oversee the operation, the front line responsibility for keeping this game fair now lies with an independent third party. And a familiar one it is... The Sullivan Compliance Company.

The familiar faces from Sullivan have been ubiquitous at game shows in recent years, and pretty much have the lock on syndie and cable programs. I've worked with or seen their smiling faces at Syndie Link, H2, FF, Hollywood Showdown, 3's A Crowd, Russian Roulette, Supermarket Sweep, etc.. They're even working Cash Cab in New York! But to my knowledge D/ND is the first show with Sullivan in the trenches at a network prime-time game; I'd love to know if there has been a precedent.

Yes, the standards are set and the compliance is enforced just as strenuously. It's just apparently in keeping with the trend of the new millenium: outsourcing.


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« Reply #176 on: December 23, 2005, 03:51:33 AM »
[quote name=\'davemackey\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 11:25 PM\']
Wouldn't work - the Banker's identity is known, and he is credited at the end of the show. Those of you with archived episodes can look it up. I don't remember his name.

The only name NBC wants you to remember these days, it seems, is EARL.
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Just went back into the ep #4 credits after just watching it.  The banker's name is  Peter Abbay
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« Reply #177 on: December 24, 2005, 12:39:16 PM »
[quote name=\'weaklink75\' date=\'Dec 22 2005, 12:51 PM\']I agree with that....I thought it was the bank again to sweeten the offer a little...and you would think they would do the Monty Hall Paradox at some point when it gets to the last two and there's a ND..(bank calls up and offers to swap cases)...
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Which did happen, BTW (surprised nobody brought up anything that took place in Friday's ep)--although Howie himself made the offer (it didn't come from the banker).

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« Reply #178 on: December 24, 2005, 11:36:58 PM »
My shake-my-head moment of the night came after the final contestant's briefcase was opened to reveal $75,000. An instant later, as the celebrating was in earnest, popped up on the screen was JANETTE HAD $75,000 IN HER CASE. Bless Endemol for that graphic. So much time had gone by since the revelation that I had forgotten.
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Robert Hutchinson

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« Reply #179 on: December 25, 2005, 01:17:12 AM »
Oh, yes. I had almost forgotten that.

THERE IS A 100% CHANCE THAT JANETTE DID NOT WIN $100,000.
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